[bksvol-discuss] Re: volunteers : was: A Plan for More Work (was Acdcent Marks)

  • From: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 23:15:03 -0400

Well, like I said, there are some good reasons to do the holds. It does seem, though, that some submitters only want to submit books for certain people. 


On 6/4/2012 11:11 PM, Ixchel wrote:

Hi Roger,
I don't think every book a submitter does should be placed on "hold." I think some books should. For example, if a submitter and proofer are doing a series. 
Jackie

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On Jun 4, 2012, at 11:03 PM, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx <mailto:rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
Since the subject is up I may as well say this. I never have liked the practice of holding books for certain proofreaders very well. I know that there are legitimate reasons for it and, in fact, in the past I have mentioned scanning a certain book and placing a hold on it at someone's request. I realize that certain people may be especially qualified to proof a certain book. A book that requires a sighted proofer is an example and another example might be when only one person has a print copy to check for certain errors. The practice of holding each and every submission for someone, though, strikes me as cliquish. It kind of freezes out new proofers and it gives the impression of a certain in group that one must figure out how to break into. I usually do not say anything about it, though, because of all the quite legitimate reasons to hold a book for someone. However, for the most part I just quietly scan what I can get hold of and submit it. It is up for grabs. 

On 6/4/2012 10:53 PM, Susan Lumpkin wrote:


Hi Roger,
That’s how I feel about proofing! Larry and I usually work together as a team but he is willing to scan for others! I haven’t proofed for a while and may or may not get back to it, not really sure! Before I took my break, I had proofread for 8 years without much of one! 

Susan
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I think it is for those who want to do it. Personally, I don't care to participate. I prefer to scan whatever I can get my hands on whenever I can get my hands on it and to scan at my leisure without feeling the pressure to get something done for someone else. When I am ready I just upload whatever I have been working on and let anyone proof it when they get to it first. 

On 6/4/2012 10:50 PM, Judy s. wrote:

Am I missing something here?
Is this new list of who likes what that's going to be used to create paired scanners and proofreaders supposed to be for just those volunteers who like the idea, or are all of us suddenly being asked to jump on another bandwagon?
If this is intended for all volunteers, it has all the potential to be yet another administrative nightmare, and would make no sense to me. 

Just my (somewhat jaded) opinion! smile.

Judy

On 6/4/2012 6:59 PM, Mayrie ReNae wrote:

Hi Lori,
As well as the privacy issue, I agree completely with you. Mayrie -----Original Message----- From:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lori Castner 
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To:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: volunteers : was: A Plan for More Work (was 
Acdcent Marks)
I think that Ann Parsons said this earlier, but I am totally baffled by the 
need for yet another list and for the complexities everyone is creating.
I have been a volunteer for about five years, and several times when I
proofread a book of interest to me I contacted the submitter and asked if
that person would let me know when they had a certain type of book available
or simply stated that I would be glad to proofead some of their future
submissions.  I have developed several good working relationships through
this method.
Also, if someone wants a proofreader for a specific type of book that
request can be mentioned on the volunteer list. Sure it takes a while to
develop working relationships, but whatever happened to human interaction.
Creating a list to pair submitters and proofreaders seems to me to be a
beaurocratic nightmare.
Lori C. -----Original Message----- From:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sue Stevens 
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To:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: volunteers : was: A Plan for More Work (was 
Acdcent Marks)
It does seem that Bookshare wants to control everything! We are not allowed 
to decide who gets our credits, and now we must submit our names to a list!!
The free spirit volunteering used to have is gone!!!! Personally, I do not 
like being controlled to this point!
Sue S. -----Original Message----- 
From: Sandi Ryan
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 6:13 PM
To:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: volunteers : was: A Plan for More Work (was 
Acdcent Marks)
Hi Jackie, Yes, that would be my idea. It sounds like it would be harder to manage 
than I hoped, but perhaps if Madeleine puts the lists together, at least we
can contact Bookshare staff and ask who might be interested in partnering on
particular projects.
It doesn't sound as efficient that way. What I was hoping for was more 
efficiency in the process so that someone with an idea could contact someone
who could partner.  Perhaps it will grow over time.
Sandi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ixchel, Jackie"<starsandhearts2@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:starsandhearts2@xxxxxxxxx> To:<bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:22 PM 
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: volunteers : was: A Plan for More Work (was
Acdcent Marks)

    Hi,

    Sandy, that's a great idea. Even though there are a lot of PQ books

    out there, there are still more that will never be submitted.

    One question, with your suggestion, are you saying that if a proofer

    or scanner likes a book that is not on the site, they contact a

    scanner or prooffer to see if they will do it? I think that's what you

    said but I want to clarify.

    Jackie


    On 6/4/12, Sandi Ryan<sjryan2@xxxxxxxxx>  <mailto:sjryan2@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:

        Hi Ann,


        The purpose is that a proofreader longing for a book to proof could

        contact


        a known scanner and ask if they'd be willing to scan it.  A scanner

        with a book that needs proofing could check with a proofreader or two

        to see if they'd do it.  It just seems more efficient to me than

        tossing a book out there on the checkout without a hold and hoping it

        gets taken.  And I was hoping, also, to rouse some interest among

        proofers to peruse booklists and


        sites for books not in the collection that they'd like to proof, then

        work with a scanner to get the book, scan and submit it, and hold it

        for the person who contacted them.


        Anyway, long explanation.  Sorry.


        Sandi


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        Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 6:36 AM

        Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: volunteers : was: A Plan for More Work

        (was Acdcent Marks)


            Hi all,


            Why go through all this?  The email and name of the scanner is

            listed in the Book History.  I don't understand the need for a 
separate

list.

            Ann P.


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