Lisa's commment, though, and Dave's reply,brings to my
mind one point. That Iam's book that Lisa agreed to do
was a female dog, to use an apt euphemism. It occurs
to me that, while a person who agrees to validate a
book and has a hold put on it for them will stick to
the agreement, even if the book is not what was
expected. On the other hand, a person who selected
that book to validate because they thought it might be
interested and who found problems with the way it was
set up might simply have released it and it might have
sat on the download list for a long time.
G.Cindy
--- talmage@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>Hi Lisa,
>I do take your comments in the spirit in which
they're given, I just
>don't necessarily agree with them.
>
>Dave says: 2. for a vallidator with specific
interest in the project;
>Lisa says: Yes, and I think this is a perfectly
legitimate
>reason. For example, I volunteered to validate
Julie's book about
>dogs from the Iams company. Why? Because I like
dogs, and so the
>subject is relevant to me. Julie posted to the list
asking for
>volunteers and I responded. She didn't have to
pick me, ...
Dave's new comment
I would expect in most cases validators pick books
that are of
interest to them and try to do a good job with them.
The problem I
have is with the pick me concept, and once again
we're back dealing
with the list.
>Dave says: 3. for the submitter's assurance that
the book will be
>picked up in a
>timely manner;
>Lisa says: And what's wrong with this? We have
had books on Step 1
>for over a year. If a submitter knows in advance
that someone is
>interested in validating a book encompassing
specialized subject
>matter, I see nothing wrong with having a
validator's name listed,
>since that book will be validated and hopefully
added to the
>collection in a more timely manner. ...
Dave's new comment
It doesn't really change the dynamics of the step 1
page. We
continue to have books that have been on there for
over a year, we
have books with hold for in the title that have been
on for months at
a time, and all it does is preclude others from
downloading a
work. By posting to the list, an is anyone
interested kind of
message is fine, all it does is assure that there is
someone willing
to validate the book. If when the time comes to
validate, and the
book can't be found, then apparently someone else
was interested as
well and it will end up in the same collection
regardless of who
validates it. Excluding the cases where a sighted
validator is
needed, all the hold for can do as far as time goes
is slow the
process down because you're now waiting for a
specific individual.
>Lisa Says:
...
think it's being selfish or elitist for a submitter
and a validator
to form an alliance in which books are submitted,
validated, and
published on Bookshare. As submitters and
validators, we should have
some say so over what we submit and validate.
Dave's next comment
From my view that special relationship you mention
between submitter
and validator comes across as a clique. As a
submitter you certainly
have a say over what you submit. You can either
submit it, or not
submit it. As a validator you can pick a book, or
move on to
another. Adding hold for, is exclusionary in a
volunteer
organization that should rather be shooting for
inclusion.
Dave
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