[bksvol-discuss] Re: hold for revisited
- From: talmage@xxxxxxxxxx
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:56:42 -0500
Hi Lisa,
I do take your comments in the spirit in which they're given, I just
don't necessarily agree with them.
Dave says: 2. for a vallidator with specific interest in the project;
Lisa says: Yes, and I think this is a perfectly legitimate
reason. For example, I volunteered to validate Julie's book about
dogs from the Iams company. Why? Because I like dogs, and so the
subject is relevant to me. Julie posted to the list asking for
volunteers and I responded. She didn't have to pick me, ...
Dave's new comment
I would expect in most cases validators pick books that are of
interest to them and try to do a good job with them. The problem I
have is with the pick me concept, and once again we're back dealing
with the list.
Dave says: 3. for the submitter's assurance that the book will be
picked up in a
timely manner;
Lisa says: And what's wrong with this? We have had books on Step 1
for over a year. If a submitter knows in advance that someone is
interested in validating a book encompassing specialized subject
matter, I see nothing wrong with having a validator's name listed,
since that book will be validated and hopefully added to the
collection in a more timely manner. ...
Dave's new comment
It doesn't really change the dynamics of the step 1 page. We
continue to have books that have been on there for over a year, we
have books with hold for in the title that have been on for months at
a time, and all it does is preclude others from downloading a
work. By posting to the list, an is anyone interested kind of
message is fine, all it does is assure that there is someone willing
to validate the book. If when the time comes to validate, and the
book can't be found, then apparently someone else was interested as
well and it will end up in the same collection regardless of who
validates it. Excluding the cases where a sighted validator is
needed, all the hold for can do as far as time goes is slow the
process down because you're now waiting for a specific individual.
Lisa Says:
...
think it's being selfish or elitist for a submitter and a validator
to form an alliance in which books are submitted, validated, and
published on Bookshare. As submitters and validators, we should have
some say so over what we submit and validate.
Dave's next comment
From my view that special relationship you mention between submitter
and validator comes across as a clique. As a submitter you certainly
have a say over what you submit. You can either submit it, or not
submit it. As a validator you can pick a book, or move on to
another. Adding hold for, is exclusionary in a volunteer
organization that should rather be shooting for inclusion.
Dave
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