Evan, Perfection is unreachable in this plain of existence. All one can do is to struggle to reach a higher consciousness. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: Evan Reese To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:33 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Quantity versus Quality I agree, but the standard is unenforceable. If the majority of submitters and volunteers work hard to put up the best books they can, but a few put up junk, there's nothing I know of that can be done, short of Gustavo looking through every book personally. Still, if validators reject lousy books, it might help to discourage poor submissions. But it won't stop them if some validators do the bare minimum and pass on the poor submissions. I guess that sounds discouraging, but I know of no way of totally eliminating bad-quality books from getting through. Perhaps the best we can hope for is to reduce the proportion. This is one instance where I would love to be proved wrong, of course. ----- Original Message ----- From: k4zq To: books ` list Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:52 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Quantity versus Quality Paula, I think the standard for Bookshare is primarily up to us. If we as volunteers insist on a high standard, it will be so. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: Paula and James Muysenberg To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 12:31 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Quantity versus Quality Ernie, I agree. I took a look at a book last night, which was rated Fair. It was something about linguistics, and has been on the Step 1 page for some time. The book fit the standard--it was readable, but it had lots of errors. I really wanted to reject it, but felt I couldn't, as long as Bookshare allows books of that quality. Of course, if it had been illegible, I would have rejected it, but the policy seems to be that we should let books through if we can still read them. I guess that if a student didn't have a scanner, and needed to read the book, this copy would do, but I cringe to imagine what a new subscriber to Bookshare would think! I hope Bookshare will soon eliminate the Fair category altogether. Paula ----- Original Message ----- From: k4zq To: books ` list Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 9:58 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Quantity versus Quality I read a great deal of this thread when it was really being discussed--what should be the criteria for rejecting books? While some held out for well done material, there were those who held that books with quite a few errors were acceptable, and should be left in the collection. One of the greatest problems facing American society (in my humble opinion) is that of dumbing down. In other words, find the lowest common denominator possible and use that as a guiding star. With Bookshare, we have a golden opportunity to contribute to the reading material of print disabled people. Yet, there are some who for their ease and comfort would say that anything that comes close to being legible is as good as we need. Let me say that that's a bunch of rot (and I cleaned that up.) Truth is, that when a thing is easy to accomplish, no one values it. I for one value Bookshare, and I know some others do to. Guess (to make it brief) to say that a book is "fair with many errors but legible throughout," should in no wise be acceptable. If that's so, we can just scan 'em and throw them up on the site. The validation process is pointless! One other point, why spend $1300 for scanning hardware and software if the quality of the reading material doesn't matter? I sure won't. Guess I should apologize for such a windy e-mail, but I won't do that either. In closing, and to sum up, Boookshare can be a valuable source for books, if we want it that way, or it can be "gi go." Ernie -------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: 8/18/2006 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.4/424 - Release Date: 8/21/2006