[bksvol-discuss] Re: I just uploaded The Book Again
- From: "Julie Morales" <mercy421@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:50:17 -0500
Actually, I don't really think I quit validating because of the hassle,
although I can sympathize with people who have thought about it. <smile> I
think the main reason I quit was just because there are so many things I have
here to scan, and I do love it, and at least for now, I get more enjoyment out
of submitting than I did from validating, but that's just me. Take care.
Julie Morales
Life is a gift from God. What we do with it is our gift to Him.
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan Reese
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:33 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I just uploaded The Book Again
Thanks, Julie.
Have no fear. I have two copies of the book I fixed up, so there's not much
chance of my losing it.
I'm sorry to hear that you quit validating. But if you submit, you could
still validate your own books, since you know what they look like. But if it's
hassle enough that you quit, then validating your own submissions might not be
any less of one, come to think of it.
Take care.
----- Original Message -----
From: Julie Morales
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:11 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I just uploaded The Book Again
It sounds like the book was kicked back, as you discovered. Gustavo does
that sometimes if the copyright isn't clear or he just wants to make sure
what's in the field does match what's in the book. What happens, though, is
when a book is kicked back, the file the validator gets is the original file.
That's why all the errors in your last file were in the file you downloaded
again. The validated file is not passed on to the downloads page if the book is
kicked back. That's why it can be a good idea to keep an eye on the downloads
page to see if a book you validated gets kicked back, and also not a bad idea
to keep the file you fixed so you don't have to do all that work all over
again. I can definitely appreciate and understand your frustration, though, and
really, that's part of the reason why I submit rather than validate now,
although I did start out my volunteering with Bookshare as a validator. Take
care.
Julie Morales
Life is a gift from God. What we do with it is our gift to Him.
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan Reese
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 2:13 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I just uploaded The Book Again
Yes, I'm adding to my own message.
I found the information I thought I was looking for about making sure
that a book was uploaded, but it applies to book submissions, not validations.
To prevent duplicate submissions, go to the Step One download page and see if
it is there. But after validation, where can I go to make sure the book I
uploaded has been successfully uploaded? The books awaiting administrator
approval list is compiled by Gustavo, not updated in real time as the Step One
download page appears to be.
This really bugs me, because the book as I downloaded it didn't have the
title at the top, and the copyright information was several pages down after
the publisher's puff material and dust jacket blurb. The comments by some
other people after I validated the book mentioned that the title and copyright
information needed to be verified. (I guess Gustavo or someone in charge
looked at it and sent it back to the Step One page because of this.) The
problem is, that if the title had been there, and the copyright information had
been easier to find, then the book the submitter sent up - with many more
errors than the one I sent up - would have been approved. It would have looked
like I had validated a copy of the book which I didn't validate - a
porrer-quality one. I read through the entire book, and I want to make sure
that other people get the book I corrected. I do not want to validate books I
didn't actually check - which would have been the case if the book had had the
title at the beginning and the copyright information easier to find.
I will not validate any more books until I have a way of assuring that
the book I have actually checked is the one that is actually the one other
readers will get. As it is, I appear to have validated a book with flaws which
I had corrected in the book I attempted to upload. I changed the quality to
'excellent' from 'good' or 'fair', I added the ISBN number, which was in the
book submitted but not in the form the submitter filled out. I added a long
synopsis from the dust jacket, which wasn't in the form the submitter filled
out. Also, I corrected a typo in the brief synopsis. All this information was
there on the Step One download page this morning, as well as my name on a book
of lesser quality than the one I tried to upload on Sunday. Needless to say, I
am ticked.
I wonder how many others have unknowingly put there names on a book that
isn't really the one they fixed up. I can't be the first one this has happened
to. If the book is approved, why would they check on a book they may have
already read? They may - as I did - read the entire book, fixing every error
they find, only for readers to get the likely lesser-quality copy of the book
the submitter sent up with the validator's blessing. All that work for
nothing. Not that it's exactly onerous for a book lover to want to fix
everything and help readers to get the best book he or she can provide, but it
does take time, and all that time will have been wasted.
It wouldn't be so bad if the site had told me that the book hadn't
uploaded for some reason, but it analyzed the scanning quality, then told me
that it was approved. The scanning quality of the original would not have been
as high, I am sure of that. There were many good pages, but some pages had
words cut off, and others had junk characters.
Also, before anyone asks, I checked the path and filename before trying
to upload. I even opened the file to make sure it was the one I wanted to send.
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan Reese
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:13 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] I just uploaded The Book Again
Ok, I just uploaded the book I edited again - not the one on the Step
One download page. How do I make sure it got up there this time. I seem to
recall something somewhere on the site about checking to make sure the book was
uploaded, but I don't remember where.
This is rather irritating. It told me that the book was approved and
pending administrator approval, it would be published, but that's what it said
the last time.
By the way, I was wrong about the accuracy rating: It wasn't 99.6
percent, but 99.96 percent. My mnemory failed me. <smile> Now if only that
version gets published ....
Other related posts:
