[bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with steps, and sending instructions

  • From: Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 02:21:26 -0700

On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I tried something else (asking for asci paragraph symbol and found
> this: Unicode character hex 182.
>
> DOes that mean anything to you? Does it work?I alsos found, though,
> someone who said thre is no ascii code forthe paragraph symbol
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Sorry. I googled paragraph and blind and found a page that gives
>> computer Braille codes but I'm in a hurry because I have to go out and
>> so far and haven't found the code for the paragraph symbol, though
>> lots of others are on the page. If you haven't found it  I'll look
>> some more when I get back in a coupe of hours.
>> CIndy
>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Angel Murphy <angel.murphy83@xxxxxxxxx> 
>> wrote:
>>> Ok thanks. But Cindy there's one thing that I saw as u were writing this 
>>> out. I saw that u were writing the steps out of how I would find my 
>>> paragraphs faster. U were writing them out as if I were sighted. And I am 
>>> not. I'm totally blind. Can anyone that is blind explain to me of how to 
>>> find my paragraphs faster, so that way I can fix the breaks of how they 
>>> should b fixed? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Angel Murphy
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>
>>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 5:12 AM, Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Open the edit menu. click on Find or replace;  either one opens a box;
>>>> at the top is a space next to words Find what. put your cursor there;
>>>> at the bottom of  at the bottom of the Find and replace box, on the
>>>> right-hand side, you'll find a small rectangle with the word special
>>>> and small arrows. click on the up arrow and at the top you'll find the
>>>> words paragraph mark.  click on that an then you can find all the
>>>> paragraph symbols. you'll want to put a space in the replace box.
>>>> you're safest to replace each one at a time. after you've done this
>>>> for a while, you can, very carefully highlight a section, i.e.,
>>>> several lines and do a replace all; but you have to be very careful
>>>> not to include the paragraph symbol that's at the end of the
>>>> paragraph. I really recommend, if you're reading what you're proofing
>>>> sentence by sentence, that you delete the end-of-line paragraph
>>>> symbols as you go along, but if you're feeling up to it,  and want to
>>>> try the global replace method, go ahead. Just be very careful or
>>>> you'll end up with a page-long, document-long single paragraph.
>>>> Although Ii know how to do it  and have done it successfully,  I don't
>>>> do it when I'm proofreading, i.e., reading the file anyway. I delete
>>>> them line by line.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Angel Murphy <angel.murphy83@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Ok Cindy thanks for the help. But now I'm wondering one thing though. Is 
>>>>> there a faster way to find my paragraphs in MS Word 2007? Pleast me know.
>>>> o to
>>>>>
>>>>> Angel Murphy
>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 2:20 AM, Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I agree with you Nimit, and I do that, too--even after all these
>>>>>>> years. It definitely is safer than the global replace which I did once
>>>>>>> or twice--very carefully-- for a book that had been returned to the
>>>>>>> download list that I really didn't want to read. If we're proofing by
>>>>>>> reading, deleting the paragraph symbols as we go along doesn't take
>>>>>>> that much more time; and if we forget to replace with a space
>>>>>>> occasionally the final spell-check will catch the two words joined
>>>>>>> that shouldn't be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The paragraph symbol is  an open backwards p (I tried to copy from one
>>>>>> of my files and paste here but it didn't work.   It should be at the
>>>>>> end of a paragraph but some are mistakenly put at the ends of lines
>>>>>> when the next thing is a line and not a new paragraph
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wait. I googled and found this one that I copied ¶   except,  that
>>>>>> what is black in this example is usuall open and there is space, not
>>>>>> closed black
>>>>>> I also found that it's called a  pilcrow. (that might come in useful
>>>>>> should I ever need to know it for a crossword puzzle; grin
>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Nimit Kaur <kaur.nimit@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi sue,  I totally agree with you.  The replace will take out hyphen
>>>>>>>> from compound words.  But, I do most of the proofing manually since I
>>>>>>>> feel it's most accurate.  I am taking the paragraphs breaks out
>>>>>>>> manually once I get the book.  I think that takes a little time, but
>>>>>>>> thanks to bookshare volunteer staff to give us options to renew, or I
>>>>>>>> would be out of my credits.  I don't always get enough time to do that
>>>>>>>> work, because of school and stuff.  I am a busy person.  Well, sorry
>>>>>>>> to get out of topic a little, but all I wanted to say that doing
>>>>>>>> things manually might be a little too much, but it's more accurate.
>>>>>>>> Thanks!  Have a good day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/15/13, Sue Stevens <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Nimit,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is how I do it. I am reading through the book anyway, so I just 
>>>>>>>>> connect
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> those words as I come to them. Word sometimes like to pull a funny on 
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> when you do a global find and replace. One thing it can do is take 
>>>>>>>>> out all
>>>>>>>>> the hyphens, including those that are meant to be hyphenated as 
>>>>>>>>> compound
>>>>>>>>> words.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sue S.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Nimit Kaur
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 3:12 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with steps, and sending 
>>>>>>>>> instructions
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Angel!  OH.....  I think all that step is saying that if you have a
>>>>>>>>> book where on the last page a word has a hyphen and it finishes on the
>>>>>>>>> next page. You connect that word.  I'll give you an example if I
>>>>>>>>> confused you.  Well, let's say if you have a word, brilliant.  The
>>>>>>>>> scanner has it like that:
>>>>>>>>> Bril (hyphen) or dash
>>>>>>>>> Page number (12)
>>>>>>>>> Liant )the word continued.)
>>>>>>>>> So, now what you have to do is reconnect that word brillliant all
>>>>>>>>> together.  There is a way to do it by replace all, but I haven't done
>>>>>>>>> it and I just do it manually.  Is that right, everyone?  If I am
>>>>>>>>> wrong, please come to explain.  Thanks and have a good day.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 3/15/13, Angel Murphy <angel.murphy83@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> No they haven't yet. Step 11 says, reconnect words across page breaks
>>>>>>>>>> I have to do a hyphen carete and a lowercase letter p. And then it 
>>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>>> correct each instance you find.
>>>>>>>>>> What do I need to do after that?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Angel Murphy
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 15, 2013, at 3:38 PM, "Martha Rafter" <mlhr@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Angel,
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry I've been away from my desk for the day.  Did someone help
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> with combining words over 2 pages?  If not, let me know!
>>>>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Angel Murphy
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:12 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with steps, and sending 
>>>>>>>>>>> instructions
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes I am referring to the proofing file. And I think it was from 
>>>>>>>>>>> mardy
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Angel Murphy
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:25 PM, "Dornetta" <dornetta@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Angel;
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you referring to the proofing file that was sent to you? And 
>>>>>>>>>>>> if so,
>>>>>>>>>>>> which file are you using--the one from me or the one from Marty, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> think?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Netta
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Just because you are blind does not mean you lack vision"-Stevie
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wonder
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>>>>>>>> "Just BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE DOESN't MEAN YOU CAN'T HEAR AND THINK!!"
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