[bksvol-discuss] Re: Clarifying the stripper and page number issue for Monday Meeting
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Thanks, Guido!
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Normalizing means isolating the header on its own line. If it is at the top
of the page it should not be preceeded by anything, and should be followed
by at least one blank line. The Header should not contain any garbage
characters. There should be a clear page number in it, rather than a
number with misrecognized chars. E.g. page 112 should not be listed as
llz.
If the header contains the author's name or the books title ensure that
these are correct and not misspelled. I personally remove from headers all
author's name and book titles. I tend to leave in only the page number.
For chapter headers instead, I want to make sure the stripper leaves them
alone, so after correcting any misspellings I split the header on two
consecutive lines. E.g.
CHAPTER
ONE
Guido
Guido Dante Corona
IBM Accessibility Center, Austin Tx.
Research Division,
Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
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Hi Guido,
How is normalizing done? All I have is Word. Is that what the toolbar
Normal means?
Sue S.
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If you leave page numbers in a way that the stripper can recognize
them/strip them, I believe that the Bookshare Daisy encoder will remove them
from the bodytext but insert them in a page number tag. As such, you should
still be able to go to page X with Victor soft or other daysy reader. The
trick of course is to normalize page numbers during the book editing
process.
Guido
Guido Dante Corona
IBM Accessibility Center, Austin Tx.
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Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
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The issue is to be able to refer other people, not BookShare users, to the
exact place where material can be found. This is necessary for footnoting,
for using the book's contents page, and for being referred by the book
itself.
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From: "Mary Otten" <maryotten@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Cindy,
> Many of the devices we use to listen to books remember where you were when
you close out of the book. And if they don't, then what good is a page
number for finding the place? Better to just enter something like
> *** which you can then search on and find your place that way and get rid
of the ***. I'd never remember a page number from one time to the next.
Braille hard copy readers use bookmarks just like print hard copy
> readers do. I can't speak to the folks who use paperless braille, like the
braille note. I don't know if that device remembers your stopping place, but
I'd venture to say that a page number in and of itself offers no help
> unless you remember it from one time to the next, whether one is using
speech or braille to access the print. The Daisy format is good, because it
offers the ability to get to the page number if one wants it and not if one
> doesn't. It satisfies both categories. Retained print page numbers are
used to provide the page numbers for the daisy books.
> The difference between reading hard copy braille and listening to speech
is that with the former, you have the ability to automatically skip things
like top of page headers or page numbers, like you can do when you
> read print. If one is listening with speech, one has no choice but to hear
all that stuff because one listens serially without the option to just
ignore the existence of the stuff at the top of the page.
> Mary
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