[bksvol-discuss] Re: Clarifying the stripper and page number issue for Monday Meeting
- From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:55:08 -0500
As long as those of us, who convert the Daisy books so we can read them on a
portable device like the Book Courier or the Braillenote have the option of
retaining page numbers in our files as well.
I manually strip page headers as I read when validating.
But I need the page numbers for reasons people have mentioned.
1. For school work, we actually do read novels, even popular science fiction
in classes, a selection of courses at my university included. World
Literature, American Literature, African American literature, Science
Fiction, the Art of Mysteries, and The Bible as Story and Literary Source.
So you can see, that it doesn't matter what the book happens to be.
I took a Best Sellers class in high school were I read. One Flew Over the
Cookoo's Nest, Catcher in the Rye, Cujo, Lightning by Dean Koontz, Watchers
by Dean Koontz, and Contagion by Robin Cook, all of those books it was
imperative for me to have page numbers to complete assignments on time, and
stay with my class. If I had had bookshare back then I might have been able
to do that, but alas, was stuck with NLS who doesn't mention page numbers
unless, of course the reader feels like it.
2. For research, believe me, I use all sorts of sources, I had to right a
report on homosexuality and people's perceptions for my English Comp class,
and used quite a bit of "literature" not nonfiction to finish the paper. I
had to employ a reader, on my dime to find page references for me, so I
could do proper citations.
3. To keep track of how much I have read and how much there is to go. This
for me is important and something that I did like Cindy when I could read
print.
So, one possible solution is to offer two daisy and two Braille files, or
one daisy and two Braille files, one with the stripper done on it, the other
without, and then letting people decide which to use, of course unless, that
couldn't be done. Though I suspect it could be and we would get the best of
both worlds, as you say the Daisy files retain them, though they disappear
in conversion.
I don't mind back translating, if I get page numbers, for the print pages in
the process.
Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden
juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
Graduate Advisory Council
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stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Otten" <maryotten@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:35 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Clarifying the stripper and page number issue
for Monday Meeting
Its worth pointing out that the page numbers are still present in the daisy
format, at least; those numbers that some folks so carefully preserve are
used in that format, so all you need do is read with something that
recognizes the tags. Is that any less reasonable a request than asking
people to go strip headers by hand? That is an extremely tedious process;
the longer the book, the more tedious. And since many don't own
something like K1000 that will do a decent job in many instances, those who
don't would then be left to strip each page or live with what the validator
submits, headers, numbers and all. You're right. There are
different views, and one size will never fit all. But I do think the daisy
books with the numbers on demand are a good compromise.
Mary
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