Thanks for the info, Monica. Cindy Wish List (i.e., books wanted added to the collection) and books-being-scanned list available at sites below Wish List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Bookshare+Wish+List Books Being Scanned List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Books+Being+Scanned+List --- On Sun, 11/8/09, Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bolded words in text > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 1:30 PM > Hi Cindy. All books submitted to > Bookshare are converted to daisy and > Braille formats. This means that you can be absolutely sure > of what will be > retained after you upload your book. As far as I can tell, > they fully retain > and use bold text, point sizes, and font face changes in > books. I don't > think they actively process italics though. When we met > with Jake when the > old Bookshare chat room was active, that's what he told us > about the new > Bookshare stripper. I kept my notes and just looked at them > for > verification. > > As for knowing when fonts are bold, italicized, or if the > point size or font > type changes, we can set our screenreaders to tell us > verbally. We can set > it to detect color changes too. We can have the pitch of > the voice change, > and there is also a keystroke we can press that announces > of font or color > of the text where we are. We can also use completely > different voices to > alert us to font or color changes if we like. > > Many totally blind people don't use these methods since > font and color > changes mean very little to us. We can't see them, and I > can't honestly say > I know the difference between Times New Roman and Arial, > other than that I > know they have different shapes. For me, having my speech > tell me about > fonts is distracting. I don't do it when reading for my own > pleasure. I turn > on font notification only when I'm preparing a book for > Bookshare. Whenever > I'm tempted to skip it, I picture people like Judy and > Nicole comfortably > reading my book while sipping some hot tea or coffee, > relaxing and not > needing to use their voice recognition program to > constantly adjust the > fonts. At first I did it out of a desire to make their > lives better. Now I > have unexpectedly learned something about how sighted > people communicate by > how and when they bold or draw attention to text. This has > helped me become > a better web designer and writer. So by helping them, I > inadvertently helped > myself too. (smile) > > > Monica Willyard > "The best way to predict the future is to create it." -- > Peter Drucker > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Cindy > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 7:03 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bolded words in text > > But we don't know when we submit or upload books whether > they're going to be > converted to Daisy or not, do we? And we're supposed to > keep the file as > cl;close as possible to the print book, so I'd retain > italics, bold, and > larger fonts as needed--jmo. > > When one is listening to a book (is that Daisy?), does one > hear emphasis > when a word is italicized? Do you scanners listen when you > scan? Or how do > you know if words need to be italicized? The book I'm soon > to upload I have > because it needed page breaks, but as I put in the breaks I > found I had to > eye-scan the print page because there are a lot of words I > found that hadto > be changed in the file to italics. It was just accident > that a sighted > proofer happened to get this file. How would a blind > scanner know that a > book needed a sighted proofer to put in italics? Can the > OCR be set to scan > italicised words or words with an odd font? > > cindy > Cindy > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject > line. To get a list of available commands, put the > word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.