From: Bob <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bolded words in text
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 1:25 PM
As far as I know, bold and
italics make no
difference at all. They may very well be taken
out.
Bob
“We know the future will outlast all of us, but I
believe that all of us
will live on in the future we make,”
Senator Edward M. Kennedy
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From:
Denise Thompson
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday,
November 08, 2009 5:44
PM
Subject:
[bksvol-discuss] Re: Bolded
words in text
My question is- does it make a
difference in Daisy
to have text in bold or italix. Does Daisy keep it?
I've been changing the
book to TN 23 and then putting the chapter in 16 because
I though that's what
we've talked about doing on this list before. I use
regular for both. I was
under the impression that Daisy didn't like bold or
other types of text
atributes. So now that we're all confused as to what
to do. Someone needs to
decide what BKS wants us to do. All of my proofed books
that I've done this
with have been approved by admin so apparently admin
thinks regular text is
ok. I want to do what is expected, but for it keeping
changing makes it
difficult for those of us doing proofing.
Denise
At 11:47 AM
11/7/2009, you wrote:
Monica, you
make a good point;
however, I am sure that the request to change the
entire text of a
submission to Times Roman 12 is in the manual.
Like you, I always
change fonts in my chapter titles to a larger size, but
luckily I have made
a note to that effect when submitting the book.
However, it would be very
easy to do all the work you mention and not make a
note.
I agree with
the other Lori from a later message that I have changed
the font in order to
make the text more readable and also to reduce some
very large fonts.
In future, I will check the fonts of chapter titles
before making a
universal change.
Lori C.
.
----- Original Message
----- From: "Monica Willyard"
<rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>
To:
<bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009
10:56 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bolded words in text
Melissa
and Lori, please,
please don't do this as a principle on every
book.
I don't think you
realize that this could do damage to someone's
submission.
When I
submit books, I work very hard to fix the fonts so
that my
chapter
headings are detected more easily both by sighted users and
the
Bookshare
tools. Sighted readers use changes in the font face or font
size to tell
when the chapter or scene changes in a book. The current
book I'm scanning
uses the Arial font to indicate a chapter name and
log entries when the
scene changes. The rest of the text is Times New
Roman.
Furthermore, in many books I submit, the page numbers are
at
the bottom of
the page. Using a larger font for the chapter names or
numbers tells the
Bookshare stripper that this is where a new chapter
or part begins. If you
change the entire document to 12 point, you
would unintentionally undo the
work I spend a couple of hours doing to
ensure good daisy navigation for
everyone. Braille and blind speech
users wouldn't notice. Our members with
learning disabilities would
though, and I'm doing everything I can to make
their reading as easy
and pleasurable as ours.
I hope what I'm saying doesn't sound like
a lecture. It's not meant that
way. I'm pleading with you to learn
about how fonts work and why they
matter. I used to do the same thing
as you, changing mine to Times New Roman
as well. Then Judy and Valerie
came into my life and opened my eyes and
heart to their needs. Since
then I began paying attention to the fonts in my
scans before
submitting them. Now I make sure the fonts for
chapters are
correct as
I strip headers in my books.
This isn't an absolute thing, and it's
not a show-stopper in the grand
scheme of things. If you know for sure
that the submitter hasn't done any
work with the fonts, changing the
font probably won't matter. If your
screenreader won't speak the text
in Word, you may have to change it to 12
point as a base. In that case,
will you please consider taking the time to
enlarge the font for
chapter headings to 14 or 16 point? You can do that
quickly by
selecting the chapter name or number and pressing
control right
bracket
in Kurzweil or shift control right bracket in Word.
It will
increase
the point size each time you press the keystroke, and you
should hear the
font size when it changes. The left bracket makes the
font smaller, by the
way.
It does take extra time to do this. I
freely admit that. If you are blind
like me, fonts mean very little
since we can't see them. Still, I know I'd
want help if something was
causing my Braille books to read badly, so I take
time to do it for
others who need it.
Monica Willyard
"The best way to predict the
future is to create it." -- Peter Drucker
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Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[
mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Melissa
Smith
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 8:31 PM
To:
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bolded words
in text
I select the whole document, and set the font to Times New
Roman, and 12
Point. I leave alone the box that has the style. This
leaves any bold or
italicized text the way it is. I do this in every
book I proof.
Melissa
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