[bksvol-discuss] Re: An alternative to validating fair quality submissions
- From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 02:32:08 -0800 (PST)
You make sense, but the person asked for the book. Who
could possibly validate a 505-book on statistical
reasoning in time for someone to have it for class,
unless the class is in a few months. I suppose the
student felt that she'd rather have the book than pay
for a reader. Presumably the scan is good enough that
she can find it usable--and perfect it as she goes.
G.Cindy
--- Gary Petraccaro <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Wow. Imagine getting a garbled book from a reading
> service where you need
> to understand it for class to actually participate.
> This person would be
> better off getting a good, old-fashioned reader.
> The best thing BookShare could do would be to
> contact the publisher. It's
> better not to have an unreliable source than no
> source because you'll end up
> in the same place either way and in the second
> instance, you will have more
> time to deal with the reality.
> I've read more than one message on the K1000 list
> where people asked for a
> way to deal with math books of one sort or another.
> The answer was never
> all that positive.
> Sorry to sound so negative. I would much prefer not
> to be.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 10:54 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: An alternative to
> validating fair quality
> submissions
>
>
> > Not necessarily, not if one needs it ASAP, for
> class.
> > Someone requested Elements of Statistical
> Reasoning
> > for a class she's taking, and it was added to the
> > collection on Thursday, but it's rated Fair. By
> the
> > time anyone got it into Excellent shape the class
> > probably would be over. Hopefully it's useful as
> it
> > is, and later on, if she has time during spring
> break
> > or this summer, or while she's reading it for
> class,
> > she can clean it up and then resubmit it as a BSO.
> > The immediate need for a textbook book is why I
> > suggested the exception.
> >
> > G.Cindy
> >
> > --- Gary Petraccaro <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> The textbooks will always be held to a higher
> >> standard.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 5:23 PM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: An alternative to
> >> validating fair quality
> >> submissions
> >>
> >>
> >> >I agree, and was going to suggest that
> alternative.
> >> > Maybe it's time the rules changed, *except* for
> >> > textbooks needed by students for class.
> >> >
> >> > G.Cindy
> >> >
> >> > --- Ilene Sirocca <ilenesia@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I certainly sympathize with this suggestion,
> but
> >> I
> >> >> do have a problem with it. The problem is
> that
> >> so
> >> >> far, book are not supposed to be rejected
> because
> >> >> they are rated fair. If they were, we wouldn't
> >> have
> >> >> the fair rating allowed in the first place.
> If a
> >> >> validator who is also a scanner rejects the
> >> original
> >> >> scanner's fair book and then submits a scan of
> >> her
> >> >> own, she takes away the original scanner's
> >> credits,
> >> >> no matter how undeserved they might be in
> terms
> >> of
> >> >> book quality, and gives them to herself. This
> is
> >> >> not your intention, but this is what happens.
> >> >>
> >> >> If Bookshare wants to have more excellent
> scans
> >> it
> >> >> has to go to the root of the problem and not
> >> allow
> >> >> people to submit fair scans, or maybe even
> good
> >> ones
> >> >> although that's more debatable I suppose.
> Yes,
> >> some
> >> >> scanners may drop out if they're held to a
> higher
> >> >> responsibility, so that has to be part of the
> >> >> consideration of this matter. But if
> excellent
> >> >> books is what we are after, the original rules
> >> have
> >> >> to be tougher. If just getting as many books
> as
> >> >> possible is the goal, then fair scans have to
> >> stay.
> >> >> Personally, I'd vote for a slower groth rate
> and
> >> a
> >> >> higher quality.
> >> >>
> >> >> There's my two cents' worth.
> >> >>
> >> >> Ilene
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> >
> >>
> >
>
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> >> >
> >>
> >
>
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> >> >
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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