atw: Re: OT: Climate change and fossil fuels
- From: Peter Martin <prescribal@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 19:49:42 +1000
Proof that wind turbines are
evironmental disasters? That thousands of environmental scientists are
incompetent liars in a giant conspiracy?
That all the recent reports of global temperature rises are fake/ wrong?
That ice core samples have been faked?
Don't look now you've just cited Occam's Razor and immediately demonstrated
a total lack of understanding of what it means.
Peter M.
0466967605
On May 21, 2013 7:34 PM, "Rod Stuart" <rod.stuart@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> OT
> As for "Digging nine mega mines in the **Galilee** basin for exportation
> of millions of tonnes of coal, drilling coal seam gas wells all over the
> country, etc is wrong from multiple points of view, not least simple
> economics.", where does one begin?
> WRONG by what measure? If it weren't for the use of natural resources, we
> would still be swing through the trees. As for economics, coal is the least
> expensive energy on the planet, although nuclear is not far behind. It's
> one tenth the cost of those environmental disasters called wind turbines,
> and one seventh the cost of solar panels, and a dozen times more
> environmentally friendly.
>
>
> On 21 May 2013 15:11, LIVERANI Petra <
> Petra.LIVERANI@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> ** ** ** ** ** **
>>
>> Hi Rod,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I've just attended a 3 day weekend conference, Beyond Coal and
>> Gas<http://www.beyondcoalandgas.org/>,
>> that included a session on climate change given by Ian Dunlop, former Chair
>> of the Australian Coal Association. It was the only session I didn't attend
>> as I feel I know enough about climate change and it only depresses and
>> alarms me to learn any more about it. Yes, I felt offended by your
>> reference to 'mythical 'global warming' but I can live with it, it's not as
>> if I haven't encountered it before.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Whatever people's acceptance of the climate science, I hope everyone can
>> agree that getting off fossil fuels is important. Digging nine mega mines
>> in the **Galilee** basin for exportation of millions of tonnes of coal,
>> drilling coal seam gas wells all over the country, etc is wrong from
>> multiple points of view, not least simple economics.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Regards,****
>>
>> ****Petra********
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *****Petra****** Liverani*
>>
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>> *From:* austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>> austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Rod Stuart
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 21 May 2013 11:17 AM
>> *To:* **austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx**
>> *Subject:* atw: Re: This does not make sense****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I suppose that is it in a nutshell. There is no 'science' about it at
>> all. To you it is political, and to to ****Petra**** religious
>> intolerance. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On 21 May 2013 11:14, Michelle Hallett <michelle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> ****
>>
>> Hi Rod,****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> I would say your comment about the word ‘glurges’ was on topic. Your
>> comments about the ‘mythical’ nature of climate change were not. We all
>> have differing political viewpoints, what we share in common is our
>> profession and, I presume, our love of language.****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> Regards****
>>
>> Michelle****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> *From:* austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>> austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Rod Stuart
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 21 May 2013 10:55 AM****
>>
>>
>> *To:* austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Subject:* atw: Re: This does not make sense****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> I thought it was pretty much on the topic that Bob had started i.e. "heat
>> glurges to the surface"! ****
>>
>> If the All Bull Corp announced some other mythical phenomenon as fact,
>> such as "Santa's reindeer glurged into the air" would that not be on
>> topic???****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> On 21 May 2013 10:50, **LIVERANI Petra** <
>> Petra.LIVERANI@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:****
>>
>> Hi Rod,****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> Can you please label any posts where you express an attitude towards the
>> phenomena of global warming or human-induced climate change as OT.****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> Regards,****
>>
>> ****Petra********
>>
>> ****
>>
>> *****Petra****** Liverani*****
>>
>> Technical Writer / UX Designer****
>>
>> petra.liverani@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <petra_liverani@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>**
>> **
>>
>> Transport Management Centre****
>>
>> Transport NSW****
>>
>> *****25 Garden St******, Eveleigh NSW 2015 | PO Box 1625, Strawberry
>> Hills NSW 2012**
>> **P: 8396 1617 | F: 8396 7950 | X: 81617 *****
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>> ****
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>> *From:* austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>> austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Rod Stuart
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 21 May 2013 10:22 AM
>> *To:* austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Subject:* atw: Re: This does not make sense****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> Here is one for you. On the ABC news site <
>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-20/global-warming-could-be-slower-than-first-thought-report/4701010>there
>> is the usual BS about the mythical 'global warming' etc. in which this
>> little gem is dropped, much like excrement for the rear end of a bull: **
>> **
>>
>> ****
>>
>> "For example, an El Nino is when the heat stored in the ocean temporarily
>> *glurges* out so the surface warms up but the total amount of heat in
>> the system doesn't change."****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> Apart from being total nonsense, it really belies the source of the ABC's
>> stories:****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> World English Dictionary****
>>
>> *glurge** * (ɡlɜːdʒ)
>> <http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html>
>> ****
>>
>> <http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html>****
>>
>> — <http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html>****
>>
>> *n <http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html>*****
>>
>> <http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html>****
>>
>> stories, <http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html>***
>> *
>>
>> often sent by email, that are supposed to be true and
>> uplifting, but which are often fabricated and sentimental
>> <http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html>****
>>
>> <http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html>****
>>
>> On 21 May 2013 06:45, Bob Trussler <bob.trussler@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:<http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html>
>> ****
>>
>> We all moan about the falling standards in grammar these days, but
>> something strange is happening. Forget the standards, as some things don’t
>> even make sense.<http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html>
>> ****
>>
>> An ABC TV newsreader said “a high day of drama”.
>> Suely, it should be “a day of high drama”? Maybe the writer was a bit
>> high when they wrote this.
>> <http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html>****
>>
>> Later in the same news broadcast, we were told about thieves in Cannes
>> who stole “the safe in a hotel room packed with jewels”.
>> Why would anyone steal the safe when the room was packed with jewels?
>> Now I am really
>> confused.<http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html>
>> ****
>>
>> Then I relaxed with some good news as I read about “a suspected boat of
>> 83 asylum seekers …”
>> At least the asylum seekers had been accepted as genuine and only the
>> boat was a suspect. I am still wondering what would the boat be suspected
>> of. Maybe someone suspected that it was a boat but wasn’t
>> sure.<http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html>
>> ****
>>
>> Bob Trussler<http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html>
>> ****
>>
>>
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>> <http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html>****
>>
>> <http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html>****
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