Petra Liverani: On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:41:40 +1000, you are alleged to have= written: [snip]... >What I'd like to see is an example of simple present tense used= for >instructions. You don't say, for example: > >You put the disk into the machine. >You press the start button >You blah blah > >You say: >Put the disk into the machine >Press the start button > >Imperative, Steve, not simple present. > Hey, wait a bit, you two! Let's get this straight: They're not alternatives, or simple vs complex variations. Both sets above represent "simple" present. One set is in present tense, indicative mode, active voice. The other set is in present tense, imperative mode, active= voice. English verbs can have: 1. tense 2. mode 3. voice And I don't see that using a present tense imperative mode works= in all cases where there is a need for an absolute or strongly emphasised= requirement for a procedure to be carried out. For example, in safety issues: Turn off the gas. doesn't quite work the same way as You must turn off the gas. And You shall turn off the gas sounds like something out of the North Shore, Berkshire, or Tom= Brown's Schooldays. Quaint, but inadequate as communication when most= of the population turns "will" and "shall" into "'ll", even if they do= see a difference. -Peter G. Martin, Technical writer, Proxima Technology ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelist.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx **************************************************