[audacity4blind] Re: Exporting Files in Audacity

  • From: "David Van Der Molen" <dvm975@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 15:23:24 -0400

Thanks Gene.  I'll download your presentation!

Dave
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 1:44 PM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Exporting Files in Audacity


Mp3 Direct Cut doesn't have effects.  I said that if you want to edit and
not add effects, Mp3 Direct Cut is more convenient to use than Audacity.
It's not a question of accessibility.  There are certain commands you need
to know and use.  It is more efficient to edit when JAWS is not running in
Mp3 Direct Cut because JAWS will slow your movement through the file.  You
don't need any screen-reader running to edit.  Other screen-readers don't
do that.  I don't know if JAWS slows movement through a file when using
Audacity but JAWS slows down the automatic repetition of key strokes when
you hold keys and that is why, in some audio programs, JAWS slows movement
through files.

I did a presentation for Accessible World on Audacity and Mp3 direct Cut.
If you want to listen to it or skim it for parts you want to hear, you can
download it at:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25812011/Audacity%20And%20Mp3%20Direct%20Cut.zip

If you want to apply effects, then you should use Audacity or programs
that provide effects.  You can then either edit the files in those
programs or export them to mp3, and edit the files using Mp3 Direct Cut.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Van Der Molen" <dvm975@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 10:05 AM
Hi Gene.

Thanks for your message!

Does MP3 Direct Cut work well with JAWS for Windows?  Are the keyboard
shortcuts quite different from Audacity?  Also you mentioned that MP3
Direct
Cut doesn't have any effects you can add. One Audacity effect I have been
using is the tempo one.  Can you increase tempo using MP3 Direct Cut?

Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:57 AM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Exporting Files in Audacity


I accidentally sent my last message before making one or two changes I
intended to make.  I intended to word the first paragraph as follows:

Instead of working with enormous wave files, I would suggest that
you try recording in a high quality mp3 format and editing using Mp3
Direct Cut.  If you don't like the results for some  reason, you can
use
wave files.  If you wwant to work with wave
files, then edit them in Audacity, which is not as easy or convenient
as
editing using Mp3 Direct Cut, then take the time to have these large
files
converted to Mp3 for their final form, that's your choice. I would
strongly advise you not to assume things such as that a high quality
wave
file will yield better results than a high quality mp3 file for spoken
word recordings.  I won't discuss music recordings in this message.  I
doubt  that anyone can tell the difference between
a 320kbps mp3 file of spoken word material and a high quality wave
file.
And since you intend to convert the material to mp3 anyway, even if
there
were any detectable difference, it would be  lost when you convert the
wave file to mp3.

No recording program serves all purposes well.  Audacity serves many
purposes well.  It is not as good  a choice for editing mp3 files as
Mp3
Direct cut where all you want to do is edit, not apply effects or
perform
other operations.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve the Fiddle" <stevethefiddle@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:56 AMI> I'd suggest recording at
44.1
/
16 PCM, and use a good fast flash
card. If the flash card can't keep up with the amount of data there
will be bits missing from the recording or other peculiarities. 44.1 /
16 should give excellent quality without overly stressing the H1 or
the flash card.

Steve

On 13 October 2012 15:23, David Van Der Molen <dvm975@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
If I want to record speech with my Zoom H1, and I want the best
quality
possible, even if the file is converted in the end to MP3, would it
be
best
to record in PCM Wav?  I have only two choices with the Zoom, either
PCM
Wav
or MP3.  If I choose PCM Wav, which sampling and bit rates should I
go
with?
My choices are 44.1-16, 44.1-24,  48-16, 48-24, 96-16, and 96-24.

After recording, I'd edit with Audacity.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: Johny cassidy
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:11 AM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Exporting Files in Audacity

I'd suggest saving the original track as a wav file. There shouldn't
be
any
loss in quality then

Sent from my iPhone

On 13 Oct 2012, at 12:44 PM, David Bailes <david_bailes@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Hi Dave,
Are these recording of speech?
In the mp3 options when saving, is the bit rate mode set to constant?
If
so
you could set it to average, and see if this is an improvement.
Unfortunately, there will be at least some loss in quality after
decoding
from  and then re encoding to mp3 format.

David.

________________________________
From: David Van Der Molen <dvm975@xxxxxxxxx>
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, 13 October 2012, 12:27
Subject: [audacity4blind] Exporting Files in Audacity

I record my files in MP3 format (96 KBPS) with a Zoom H1 recorder.
When
I
edit the recordings, I'm quite okay with the sound quality.  When,
however,
I export these projects back into MP3 format, 96 kbps, I find that
the
quality deteriorates.  The recordings kind of sound tinny, like radio
stations' web broadcasts used to sound like.  Can I fix these MP3s
somehow?
Is there a particular equalizer that anyone would suggest that I use?

Dave



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