[audacity4blind] Re: Exporting Files in Audacity

  • From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 12:44:34 -0500

Mp3 Direct Cut doesn't have effects.  I said that if you want to edit and
not add effects, Mp3 Direct Cut is more convenient to use than Audacity. 
It's not a question of accessibility.  There are certain commands you need
to know and use.  It is more efficient to edit when JAWS is not running in
Mp3 Direct Cut because JAWS will slow your movement through the file.  You
don't need any screen-reader running to edit.  Other screen-readers don't
do that.  I don't know if JAWS slows movement through a file when using
Audacity but JAWS slows down the automatic repetition of key strokes when
you hold keys and that is why, in some audio programs, JAWS slows movement
through files.

I did a presentation for Accessible World on Audacity and Mp3 direct Cut. 
If you want to listen to it or skim it for parts you want to hear, you can
download it at:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25812011/Audacity%20And%20Mp3%20Direct%20Cut.zip

If you want to apply effects, then you should use Audacity or programs
that provide effects.  You can then either edit the files in those
programs or export them to mp3, and edit the files using Mp3 Direct Cut.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Van Der Molen" <dvm975@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 10:05 AM
> Hi Gene.
>
> Thanks for your message!
>
> Does MP3 Direct Cut work well with JAWS for Windows?  Are the keyboard
> shortcuts quite different from Audacity?  Also you mentioned that MP3
> Direct
> Cut doesn't have any effects you can add.  One Audacity effect I have been
> using is the tempo one.  Can you increase tempo using MP3 Direct Cut?
>
> Dave
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:57 AM
> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Exporting Files in Audacity
>
>
>>I accidentally sent my last message before making one or two changes I
>> intended to make.  I intended to word the first paragraph as follows:
>>
>>> Instead of working with enormous wave files, I would suggest that
>>> you try recording in a high quality mp3 format and editing using Mp3
>>> Direct Cut.  If you don't like the results for some  reason, you can
>>> use
>> wave files.  If you wwant to work with wave
>>> files, then edit them in Audacity, which is not as easy or convenient
>>> as
>>> editing using Mp3 Direct Cut, then take the time to have these large
>>> files
>>> converted to Mp3 for their final form, that's your choice. I would
>>> strongly advise you not to assume things such as that a high quality
>>> wave
>>> file will yield better results than a high quality mp3 file for spoken
>> word recordings.  I won't discuss music recordings in this message.  I
>> doubt  that anyone can tell the difference between
>>> a 320kbps mp3 file of spoken word material and a high quality wave
>>> file.
>>> And since you intend to convert the material to mp3 anyway, even if
>>> there
>>> were any detectable difference, it would be  lost when you convert the
>>> wave file to mp3.
>>>
>>> No recording program serves all purposes well.  Audacity serves many
>>> purposes well.  It is not as good  a choice for editing mp3 files as
>>> Mp3
>>> Direct cut where all you want to do is edit, not apply effects or
>>> perform
>>> other operations.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Steve the Fiddle" <stevethefiddle@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:56 AMI> I'd suggest recording at
>>> 44.1
>>> /
>>> 16 PCM, and use a good fast flash
>>>> card. If the flash card can't keep up with the amount of data there
>>>> will be bits missing from the recording or other peculiarities. 44.1 /
>>>> 16 should give excellent quality without overly stressing the H1 or
>>>> the flash card.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> On 13 October 2012 15:23, David Van Der Molen <dvm975@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> If I want to record speech with my Zoom H1, and I want the best
>>>>> quality
>>>>> possible, even if the file is converted in the end to MP3, would it
>>>>> be
>>>>> best
>>>>> to record in PCM Wav?  I have only two choices with the Zoom, either
>>>>> PCM
>>>>> Wav
>>>>> or MP3.  If I choose PCM Wav, which sampling and bit rates should I
>>>>> go
>>>>> with?
>>>>> My choices are 44.1-16, 44.1-24,  48-16, 48-24, 96-16, and 96-24.
>>>>>
>>>>> After recording, I'd edit with Audacity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Johny cassidy
>>>>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:11 AM
>>>>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Exporting Files in Audacity
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd suggest saving the original track as a wav file. There shouldn't
>>>>> be
>>>>> any
>>>>> loss in quality then
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13 Oct 2012, at 12:44 PM, David Bailes <david_bailes@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>> Are these recording of speech?
>>>>> In the mp3 options when saving, is the bit rate mode set to constant?
>>>>> If
>>>>> so
>>>>> you could set it to average, and see if this is an improvement.
>>>>> Unfortunately, there will be at least some loss in quality after
>>>>> decoding
>>>>> from  and then re encoding to mp3 format.
>>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: David Van Der Molen <dvm975@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 13 October 2012, 12:27
>>>>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Exporting Files in Audacity
>>>>>
>>>>> I record my files in MP3 format (96 KBPS) with a Zoom H1 recorder.
>>>>> When
>>>>> I
>>>>> edit the recordings, I'm quite okay with the sound quality.  When,
>>>>> however,
>>>>> I export these projects back into MP3 format, 96 kbps, I find that
>>>>> the
>>>>> quality deteriorates.  The recordings kind of sound tinny, like radio
>>>>> stations' web broadcasts used to sound like.  Can I fix these MP3s
>>>>> somehow?
>>>>> Is there a particular equalizer that anyone would suggest that I use?
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
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