[audacity4blind] Re: Amplification versus Gain
- From: "Robbie" <tickleberryfun@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 10:54:29 +0200
Hi Rich!
I prefer using gain, especially when mastering a song, because you can
increase or decrease the level of a track while the project is playing.
That way you can judge immediately how it sounds in context. I really only
use Amplify to raise the whole project to -0 dB.
However, perhaps someone can help me with a problem I'm having. In a song
I'm currently producing the Gain and Pan values are frequently reset to 0.
I think this happens when saving the project. So if I pan a track to 0.9
it afterwards keeps its position but the value in the Pan box is 0 again.
This is confusing and annoying. I'd welcome any advice on this.
Cheers, Robbie
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rich De Steno
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:06 PM
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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Amplification versus Gain
My conclusion from this information on gain and amplification is that I
should forget about using gain and exclusively use the amplification
effect when I want to raise or lower the level of a track or section of a
track.
Rich De Steno
On 8/24/2013 9:54 AM, Gale Andrews wrote:
> | From Rich De Steno <ironrock@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sat, 24 Aug 2013 09:29:40
> | -0400
> | Subject: Amplification versus Gain
>> David, just to clarify, let's say that I have a project going with
>> four tracks, three guitars and a vocal. Let's say that the vocal is
>> too low and I want to bring it up in relation to the guitars. I
>> select the vocal track and make sure that the guitar tracks are not
>> selected. I then press shift-g and enter 3, for example. Do I still
>> need to use the "mix and render" command, which I was never aware of
>> before this, or is pressing shift-g and entering 3 sufficient?
> SHIFT + G and increase the gain is sufficient for listening to the
> file and exporting it.
>
> The point is that the gain does not write the gain change to the audio
> data (and if you could see the waveform, does not modify the waveform
> height).
>
> The difference is that if you tried five different gain settings and
> did Mix and Render after each settings change, you would have written
> a lot of extra audio data. That could lead you to run out of disk
> space if you were short of space and had tracks that were several
> hours long.
>
>
>
> Gale
>
>
>> On 8/24/2013 8:30 AM, David Bailes wrote:
>>> Hi Rich,
>>> although amplification and gain do roughly the same thing, there are
some differences.
>>> The gain of track is applied to the whole track, and is only applied
>>> when the track is mixed for playback or export to a file, or when
>>> you use the mix and render command. Changing the gain, doesn't
>>> affect the amplitude of the audio data in the track.
>>> The amplify effect can be applied to a time range in one or more
>>> tracks. It changes the amplitudes of the audio data in the track, and
it ignores the gain settings of > the tracks.
>>> If you select one or more tracks and choose mix and render on the
>>> tracks menu, then in the resultant track, the gains of the tracks
>>> have been taken into account, and the gain of the track is initially
zero.
>>> So for example, if you select a single track, set the gain to 3,
>>> apply the mix and > render command, the gain is applied to the audio
data in the track, and the gain is reset to zero.
>>> > David.
>>>
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Rich De Steno <ironrock@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Cc:
>>> Sent: Friday, 23 August 2013, 19:51
>>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Amplification versus Gain
>>>
>>> Is there any difference between increasing the volume of a track
>>> through the amplify selection in the Effects menu, and by pressing
>>> shift-g for gain and entering a number? If there is a difference,
what is it?
>>> Also, when I have a project of several tracks that are all
>>> unselected, and then I record another track, select it, and check
>>> the level of that last track in the amplify selection in the Effects
>>> menu, it always seems to show a negative number no matter how quiet
>>> that last track is. Why is that? Also, merely making this check on
>>> the selected last track seems to make every track selected. What is
going on?
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