[arachne] Re: What is "cloud computing" ???

  • From: "Sam Ewalt" <ewalt@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:07:40 -0500 (EST)

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Hi Eric,

I had a shell account for several years as my ISP at the time
offered both shell and regular internet access. I loved the speed
and efficiency of text based, remote computing. However the ISP
discontinued shell accounts for security reasons and because they
only had five out of ten thousands users who ever used the shell
account access.

I lost three years of email archives. But, later decided that I
was better off without an archive and now routinely delete most
email after a month or so, only keeping stuff very rarely.

I do remember the GDFN (Greater Detroit Freenet)and had an account there.


On Fri, December 12, 2008 7:13 pm, Eric S. Emerson wrote:
> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
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> Hi Ron,
>                Well said. I agree with your view
> of things. I had an account with the Greater
> Detroit Freenet. I guess it was like a shell acct.
> You logged on like a BBS and had menus but
> it also provided Internet access with highspeed
> Unix connection and e-mail and space for a web
> page. It was small and only text based but it was
> handy....untill it folded and everything one had on
> it was gone.  ALL GONE.....before I could download
> anything I had there.
>
> Eric
>
> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:06:19 +1100 Ron Clarke <ariadne@xxxxxxxxxx>
> writes:
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>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:11:07 -0500 (EST)
>> "Sam Ewalt" <ewalt@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, December 11, 2008 9:35 pm, L.D. Best wrote:
>> >
>> > > Here's a teaser:  Can 'low end' computers take advantage of "the
>> cloud" ??
>> > >
>> > "The cloud" is a massive, expandable network of servers and
>> > powerful computers that you can access as needed. There is no
>> > need for massive computing power on your desktop if you can
>> > access that power whenever and wherever you need it.
>> >
>> > Think dumb terminal and multi-user system with the applications
>> > and data being stored and worked with remotely. The terminal
>> > doesn't have to be all that powerful, just capable of displaying
>> > the interface to the resources that reside elsewhere. The
>> "elsewhere"
>> > is expandable and gathers resources as needed.
>> >
>> > "The cloud" is an evolving idea. Early and perhaps primitive
>> examples
>> > would be things like Gmail and the Google applications. Who needs
>> a
>> > word processor on your own computer as long as you can access one?
>> > You don't have to take it with you, it's already there. Many
>> people
>> > from many locations can all access and work on the same documents.
>> > You can travel around the campus and around the world and still
>> have
>> > all your files and documents. You don't even know where your stuff
>> > is physically. It no longer matters.
>>
>>    Maybe not to you, but it matters to me.
>>
>>    What is still fresh in my mind is the fire in a server farm in
>> Dallas Texas. That server farm hosted web domains, including both of
>> mine. I lost nothing, but others were not so lucky. My domains are
>> now hosted in Sydney, Australia.
>>
>>    Now, what if I had had my business records there as well ?
>>
>> > Keep extending this idea. Why does an enterprise need its own
>> > servers as long as service is available?
>>
>>    To ensure that all the important stuff is safe from mishap, and
>> is backed up properly and regularly.
>> And that my confidential stuff is not so vulnerable to either
>> hackers (including government agencies) or corrupted server-farm
>> employees.
>>
>> > Services don't need to reside in a location. They just need to
>> > exist and be locatable. They can float through the cloud like
>> > ideas float through our brains.
>>
>>    If you want "cloud" functionality for Arachne - you already have
>> it.  Read the documents on "netdos".
>> See:  arachne\doc\netdos.htm for Michael Polak's original
>> explanation.
>>
>>    Not a lot of applications available yet, just proof of concept,
>> but it DOES work.
>> See: http://www.ausreg.com/netdos/netdos.htm
>>
>>    If there are favourite single-executable DOS programs that anyone
>> would like hosted in an "Arachne cloud", speak up !   Ya never know
>> what is possible until ya try.  :)
>>
>> Regards,
>>         Ron
>>
>> --
>> Ron Clarke
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