Hi Amro I use an Ambutech long cane which is thicker and, in my view, much more sturdy than the Ultracane. Put it this way, someone's legs feel it if you belt them with it!! I tried the large roller ball tip on the Ultra as well, but I still didn't feel it justified the outlay for the gadget itself. I've had people knock my cane out of my hand, and I would imagine that if someone was using an Ultra, it would smash when hitting the ground in that scenario. I also hold the cane very loosely in my hand, and the wrap-around of my hand and specific positioning of my thumb to cover the sensors on the Ultra just didn't feel right to me. My dream would be an all weatherproof, all singing, all talking bike that I could ride with a platform to carry my kit on it, and shock-absorbing fittings to protect my back when I crashed it!!! Wicked!!! Jackie Cairns Braille Support Adviser Email: Jackie.Cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3 6WD Telephone: 01604 798024 Fax: 01604 798090 Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amro Bilal Sent: 13 October 2008 16:26 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultracane! Do I have a possible collectors item here? Jackie, I personally don't find holding the cane with the thumb on the right place of an issue. I agree with you totally though that the handle is way too bulky. As the vibrator joke is on the table, I can tell you that I had so many very interesting conversations when people, well ladies, when they see the vibrators on my cane! I always top it up at the end with showing them my Tissot vibrator watch! Worth having the cane for that only :-D Cheers, Amro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:39 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultracane! Do I have a possible collectors item here? > What I found difficult to deal with on the Ultra was the way you had > to position your thumb over the two buttons. I'm just not accustomed > to holding a cane in that way. And, if you want a naughty laugh for a > Monday morning, I didn't like the way it vibrated, particularly when I > was about to enter the ladies' loo? (big smile). > > > Jackie Cairns > Braille Support Adviser > Email: Jackie.Cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology > Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton > NN3 6WD > Telephone: 01604 798024 > Fax: 01604 798090 > Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Husna Begum > Sent: 11 October 2008 00:16 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultracane! Do I have a possible collectors > item here? > > and it was really heavy and bulky as well for regular use. I wish they > could invent some thing much more stream lined and less unobtrusive. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 12:05 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultracane! Do I have a possible collectors > item here? > > >> Hi, I tend to agree with that. It was a great idea that worked really >> well for a few people. People that couldn't afford it or didn't like >> the sound > of >> it didn't engage with the evaluation process so they thought >> everybody > would >> love it. I actually don't think it was over priced, I just think the >> value it brings is not worth that for the majority of people. >> Evaluators need to remember that to make a product work, they need to >> conquer people's fears and make sure those it initially doesn't suit >> well are converted. 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