[access-uk] Re: Request regarding DSA

  • From: "Mike Moore" <mikeis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 23:34:21 +0100

Yusuf,
For something as simple as graphs, it should work well. With maps there are usually a lot of other factors to take into account, such as profile lines for the ground, longitude and latitude lines etc. 

Cheers,

Mike
----- Original Message ----- From: "Yusuf" <yusufaosman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 11:24 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Request regarding DSA
Mike, Have you considered the legistics of actually converting the graphs in to tactile form? I presume its not as simple as putting them through the hardware/software and it producing a tactile version.
I'm only asking because when I wanted my maps producing I had to spend quite a lot of time with someone from the RNIB discussing how the maps wer to be produced in a way that would make sense to me as a blind person.
I'm just thinking that it might not be as simple as getting a piece of hardware and producing your own graphs.
You've probably thought about this already but thought I'd ask. 
Yusuf
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Moore" <mikeis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 10:36 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Request regarding DSA



Usuf,
The only problem is if I produce a graph, say with SPSS, I cannot have an instant print dump at that moment, so I am not able to participate in the practical classes.
I feel that would be an option for course work etc if time scale was not a factor. 

Thanks,

Mike
----- Original Message ----- From: "Yusuf" <yusufaosman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 9:04 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Request regarding DSA
Mike, I can't comment on your particular piece of equipment. But I have used DSA to pay for tactile maps to be produced as part of my research. If they refuse to consider the equipment, would it be appropriate to ask for costs of production of tactile representations of your graphs by someone like the RNIB? 
Yusuf
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Moore" <mikeis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 7:59 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Request regarding DSA



Hi,
DSA is also an allowance for purchasing equipment which may be required in order for one to have an equal opportunity to complete the course.
The item would be used at home for me to produce graphs, based on statisticle data, and making comment on these graphs.
The University would have no part in helping me to produce these, as they are NOT handouts or course material.
If I do not feel these graphs, how can I make a personal comment on them? Thus, I am at an unfair disadvantage.
If someone in the past has been awarded funding for something like this, I would be interested to know. I have my email address at the bottom. 

Cheers,

Mike

MikeIs@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan" <digitaltoast@xxxxxxxxx> 
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 4:49 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Request regarding DSA
Speaking as a sighted user, oddly enough I was looking at the Zychem 
pricelist just earlier today.
Tricky one, this. The fuser appears to be about £510, but did you know you can get the sheets processed from 52p each (minimum order £10)?
The lady I spoke to at Sight Village, Ellen Summers, seemed very helpful. You never know, they might even know of a second hand one.
As far as DSA goes, though, I can't really understand your complaint. DSA says: "Disabled Students' Allowances (DSAs) provide extra financial help if you want to study a higher education course and have a disability. DSAs are grants to help meet the extra course costs 
students can face as a direct result of a disability".
But you're saying it's for your "independant work at home and has in 
effect nothing to do with the University".

So, from that, I'd say it was probably the case.
On 15 October 2010 16:16, Mike Moore <mikeis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
Hello,

I hope this is within the boundary's of the list:
I am requesting a Zychem fuser to give tactile representations of graphs, which I create. DSA are saying that it does not fall within their requirements of supply, and it is the responsibility of the University to provide all class material and handouts in a format I can access.
My argument is that this is for my independant work at home and has in effect nothing to do with the University's duty to provide other materials. 

Can anyone advise please?

Thanks,

Mike
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