[access-uk] Re: Request regarding DSA
- From: "Barry G" <lister@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 20:23:49 +0100
Hi Eleanor, apologies for that, it's the penalty I pay for having JFW running
too fast, first line of your email is "I read" and, with Eloquence running
fairly quickly, that somehow lodged in my poor old, age-addled brain as Irene!!
All the best
Barry G
----- Original Message -----
From: Eleanor Burke
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 9:32 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Request regarding DSA
Hi Barry, I note you address your comments to Irene but that my e-mail is
below your comments. I am Eleanor, not Irene.
The Open University permit me to have non-medical helper, a person of my
choice though I do accept that if I did not have someone to nominate, the
university would nominate someone. I am also aware that if the university did
nominate someone that person would be paid a lot more than my chosen person who
is paid only £8 per hour.
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: Barry G
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 8:20 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Request regarding DSA
Hi Irene, I obviously don't know, but I would assume that's an arrangement
with an individual rather than an organisation.
Most campus-based universities have their own ancilliary learning support
workers such as note-takers, readers, library support workers, as well as other
roles such as mental health mentors, specialist assistive ICT trainers,
specialist study skills tutors etc., but a number use one of the agencies, as
do the OU.
I do assessments for OU students in the South West region and the OU's
preferred supplier of "non medical helper" support is Randstad, although the
assessor can specify another supplier if he/she feels it is appropriate, be
that an organisation or an individual. You can check out the rates with a bit
of digging on the sites of Randstad, Clear Links, Claro Learning etc.
You might be interested to see that a specialist dyslexia study skills
tutor and a mental health mentor will be charged to the funding authority at
anything between £50 and £78 per hour, although that's not what the person
carrying out the actual work gets paid... My figures for the cost were based
on the cost I have to factor in to my DSA needs assessment reports.
All the best,
Barry G
----- Original Message -----
From: Eleanor Burke
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 6:58 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Request regarding DSA
I read Barry G's e-mail response to Mike and note the fee he states for a
Reader. I have been a student at the Open University for some years now and my
Reader is paid the sum of eight pounds per hour!!! I also note that the fee
never increased over the years!!!!
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: Barry G
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 5:14 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Request regarding DSA
Hi Mike, I'm a DSA assessor at Southampton University's Wessex Needs
Assessment Centre and have recommended this item in the past, but that was
before SFE took over the world. Your course website or handbook should give
some sort of breakdown of the hours expected for private study and you can cite
that in your case, and the assignment marking schemes include an element for
evidence of wider reading than the handouts and the core booklist, again an
element for your case - bearing in mind that you would be "placed at a
significant disadvantage against your peers" if denied access to private study
material - ultimately, if your assignment marks are lower, so will your degree
classification.
You might also like to argue that the alternative is to have a sighted
support worker to describe material to you at a cost of somewhere between £15
and 25 per hour to SFE - if you cost that out at say 2 hours/week over a
30-week academic year x the 3 or four years of[ your course and then add the
other two arguments...
As for the argument that the university should do all that is
reasonable to put material in accessible format, that is certainly true, but
they can't put the entire library in that format unfortunately, and you need to
be able to follow ideas and avenues as your research develops, waiting for
someone to transcribe/transform it destroys your freedom to follow those
thoughts, and they aren't that expensive in the scheme of things.
The main weakness in your case would be if you have been provided with
some other piece of kit that could be argued to be capable of representing
graphical information. My final point would be, your DSA needs assessor should
be making this case to SFE for you if they are satisfied that you need the kit!
All the best,
Barry G
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Moore
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 4:16 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Request regarding DSA
Hello,
I hope this is within the boundary's of the list:
I am requesting a Zychem fuser to give tactile representations of
graphs, which I create. DSA are saying that it does not fall within their
requirements of supply, and it is the responsibility of the University to
provide all class material and handouts in a format I can access.
My argument is that this is for my independant work at home and has
in effect nothing to do with the University's duty to provide other materials.
Can anyone advise please?
Thanks,
Mike
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