[access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
- From: "Karl Proud" <karl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:29:02 +0100
I need to find the books myself to hand over to the student, so the labels
are for my use only. I could get them to search through the bookcase but
some of them can't handle the whole alphabet thing whilst looking for
books - you may scoff, but I'm not kidding!
I also sometimes want to find a book I've previously scanned to rescan a
page and the label will mean I can know whether the book is upside
down/wrong way around etc.
And of course it is a shiny new piece of technology to play with...
Karl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean Wilcox" <wilcoxdean@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:00 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
Sounds like a good plan but the message is stored on the pen that
records it, how will all the student's and their PenFriends know what
the label is? I also read on this list that there is a penFriend
that can dublicate a label onto multiple Pens for just this reason, I
wonder if it is a prototype or is this what you plan to use?
At 18:40 10/07/2009, you wrote:
>Good point. I am one of those many people who don't read braille and more
>importantly. have no intention of doing so, if I did then I would certainly
>use that method as often as possible for exactly the reasons you say.
>I need to put labels on a pretty large library of books to give to students
>when they can't be bothered to use the library, or have spent all their
>money on drink and can't buy them; this method will work for probably a
>couple of years until the pen is no longer supported and mine stops
>working.
>
>As for 30 to 40 years, I'm not sure I'll be around to care. <smiles>
>
>Cheers
>Karl
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dean Wilcox" <wilcoxdean@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 6:20 PM
>Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
>
>
>I wouldn't label my CDs, DVDs and other similar itmes for this
>reason. Maybe a bigger one is simply that in 20 or 30 years you
>probably won't have a PenFriend but you will still have your fingers
>and the Braille system will still be the same. Labellers like the
>penFriend may get released but they are unlikely to read each other's
>labels. Saying all this, it is all down to personal preference and
>not all that many people read Braille so don't have a decision like
>this to make.
>
>At 07:11 10/07/2009, you wrote:
> >Hi Karl
> >
> >This is my understanding too. Another point is that The device is very
> >useful for many applications but I suspect using it for anything critical
> >(meaning anything that it will take you too long to construct again) may
> >be
> >risky.
> >As all messages are stored on the device, any memory corruption (which
> >can
> >happen with this type of devices) may mean that all messages are lost.
> >So for example I would not mark my CDs unless the messages can be easily
> >backed up and restored.
> >
> >Regards
> >Isaac
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> >Of
> >Karl Proud
> >Sent: 09 July 2009 21:13
> >To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
> >
> >Hi,
> >What I meant was that if you are concerned that you would go through the
> >labels fast by using them for food: labels on tins and fridge/freezer
> >items,
> >and felt that you would run out of labels real fast there was a way of
> >using
> >more than one pack of label A packs. So, if I bought 5 packs of A
> >labels,
> >I
> >could just go through them as long as I deleted the voice tag for each
> >tin/freezer bag I used. I didn't mean reusing the labels.
> >
> >Cheers
> >Karl
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 6:44 PM
> >Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
> >
> >
> >No, but if you have them on a box in the freezer for example containing
> >sausages and then eat the sausages and replace them with steak, you can
> >rerecord the sausage label to become steak. I think this is what Karl was
> >explaining.
> >
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> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "will" <lomaswilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 5:53 PM
> >Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
> >
> >
> > > YEAH BUT THE LABELS ARE NOT DESIGNED IT SEEMS TO BE TRANSFERED ONTO
> > > DIFFERENT ITEMS AFTER USE
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Karl Proud" <karl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:51 PM
> > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
> > >
> > >
> > >> If you are using labels for disposable goods, like tins and freezer
> > >> bags
> > >> you
> > >> can use pack a labels repeatedly if you simply scan the label you are
> > >> using
> > >> as you open the tin and then clear that label's voice tag on the pen.
> > >> Then, if you scan a new label and it comes up with a voice tag you
> > >> know
> > >> it
> > >> is still in use
> > >>
> > >> You just have to be sure you clear the label everytime you use the
> > >> bag/tin
> > >> etc
> > >>
> > >> Karl.
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "David Russell" <david.russell8@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:17 PM
> > >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Barry,
> > >>
> > >> I believe you will get varying sizes of label in each pack. A and b
> > >> refers
> > >> to the coding by which the Penfriend recognises the label itself.
> > >> for
> > >> that
> > >> reason you cannot purchase two packs of pack A as they will be of no
> > >> use
> > >> unless you have two penfriends.
> > >>
> > >> at present there is no pack b, but if there were, you could only buy
> > >> one
> > >> of
> > >> those for one Penfriend. In the future we may get pack c d e and 5 6
> > >> and
> > >> 7,
> > >> But I will have filled my freezer long before then.
> > >>
> > >> David
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
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> > >> Behalf
> > >> Of Barry Toner
> > >> Sent: 09 July 2009 17:09
> > >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> Subject: [access-uk] Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hi folks,
> > >>
> > >> I've sortive followed this and sortive not...
> > >>
> > >> I'm confused as to why we even have two different types of packs
> > >> unless
> > >> they
> > >> are just different sizes?
> > >>
> > >> Can someone explain this, briefly in a nut shell if you will?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Barry.
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