[access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
- From: "Karl Proud" <karl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:40:00 +0100
Ibrahim,
So it's not just me then...
<smile>
Karl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 12:01 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
Hi Carl.
Indeed, it is an extremely simple device employing a simple concept. Why
all this discussion about its operation and label packs I don't know
*smile*, I often find myself repeating myself to people who just don't get
the fact that this is nothing more than a simple, cost effective labelling
device with a couple of nice extras IE the mp3 player and voice recorder.
The only bar code scanning package with a food database that I know of is
developed by Freedom Scientific, costs over a thousand pounds and has to be
used in conjunction with a PackMait note taker device, altogether a clumsier
package not to mention hideously and for most prohibitively expensive. If
I'm being honest, this device is going to tick the boxes for most people on
price and utility.
All the best, Ibrahim.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karl Proud" <karl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 11:34 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
> The food database would be huge and I for one don't want to use it only
> for
> food items. The whole thing seems really clear and simple to me. I need
> something to mark CD's and books and this is perfect.
>
> Cheers
> Karl
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "will" <lomaswilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:18 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
>
>
> hi I agree. cant the product be developed that has a database of foods so
> it
> knows itself what the foos actually are by the barcode?
> Why are all these labels necissary
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damon Rose" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 8:51 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
>
>
>> Dunno about you but this whole A pack B pack thing seems a bit daft.
>> Surely it could've been developed a little better?
>>
>> What happens, in practice, if you use the same barcode label twice? That
>> would be useful to know.
>>
>> Also, why can't we just use the barcode that is on the product itself
>> already? This would mean that every time I swipe a can of heinz baked
>> beans, it would always say heinz baked beans because the barcode will
>> always be the same. Or would this necessitate too much guesswork in
>> working out where the barcode is? I ask because some of these barcode
>> sensors are really very good and you don't have to be precise at where
>> you point the wand.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of Karl Proud
>> Sent: 10 July 2009 08:38
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
>>
>> Isaac,
>>
>> I was thinking the same thing. I am guessing that the penfriend is
>> pretty
>> portable and can therefore be lost pretty easily - I lose every other
>> thing!
>> Backup is going 6to be important.
>> really looking forward to getting a hold of one and playing with it
>> though.
>>
>> Karl
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Isaac Porat" <isaac@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:11 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
>>
>>
>> Hi Karl
>>
>> This is my understanding too. Another point is that The device is very
>> useful for many applications but I suspect using it for anything
>> critical
>> (meaning anything that it will take you too long to construct again) may
>> be
>> risky.
>> As all messages are stored on the device, any memory corruption (which
>> can
>> happen with this type of devices) may mean that all messages are lost.
>> So for example I would not mark my CDs unless the messages can be easily
>> backed up and restored.
>>
>> Regards
>> Isaac
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Karl Proud
>> Sent: 09 July 2009 21:13
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
>>
>> Hi,
>> What I meant was that if you are concerned that you would go through the
>> labels fast by using them for food: labels on tins and fridge/freezer
>> items,
>> and felt that you would run out of labels real fast there was a way of
>> using
>> more than one pack of label A packs. So, if I bought 5 packs of A
>> labels, I
>> could just go through them as long as I deleted the voice tag for each
>> tin/freezer bag I used. I didn't mean reusing the labels.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Karl
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 6:44 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
>>
>>
>> No, but if you have them on a box in the freezer for example containing
>> sausages and then eat the sausages and replace them with steak, you can
>> rerecord the sausage label to become steak. I think this is what Karl
>> was
>> explaining.
>>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "will" <lomaswilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 5:53 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
>>
>>
>>> YEAH BUT THE LABELS ARE NOT DESIGNED IT SEEMS TO BE TRANSFERED ONTO
>>> DIFFERENT ITEMS AFTER USE
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Karl Proud" <karl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:51 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
>>>
>>>
>>>> If you are using labels for disposable goods, like tins and freezer
>> bags
>>>> you
>>>> can use pack a labels repeatedly if you simply scan the label you are
>>>> using
>>>> as you open the tin and then clear that label's voice tag on the pen.
>>>> Then, if you scan a new label and it comes up with a voice tag you
>> know
>>>> it
>>>> is still in use
>>>>
>>>> You just have to be sure you clear the label everytime you use the
>>>> bag/tin
>>>> etc
>>>>
>>>> Karl.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "David Russell" <david.russell8@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:17 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Barry,
>>>>
>>>> I believe you will get varying sizes of label in each pack. A and b
>>>> refers
>>>> to the coding by which the Penfriend recognises the label itself.
>> for
>>>> that
>>>> reason you cannot purchase two packs of pack A as they will be of no
>> use
>>>> unless you have two penfriends.
>>>>
>>>> at present there is no pack b, but if there were, you could only buy
>> one
>>>> of
>>>> those for one Penfriend. In the future we may get pack c d e and 5 6
>> and
>>>> 7,
>>>> But I will have filled my freezer long before then.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
>> Behalf
>>>> Of Barry Toner
>>>> Sent: 09 July 2009 17:09
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>> I've sortive followed this and sortive not...
>>>>
>>>> I'm confused as to why we even have two different types of packs
>> unless
>>>> they
>>>> are just different sizes?
>>>>
>>>> Can someone explain this, briefly in a nut shell if you will?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Barry.
>>>>
>>>> Barry Toner
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