The food database would be huge and I for one don't want to use it only for food items. The whole thing seems really clear and simple to me. I need something to mark CD's and books and this is perfect. Cheers Karl ----- Original Message ----- From: "will" <lomaswilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:18 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B? hi I agree. cant the product be developed that has a database of foods so it knows itself what the foos actually are by the barcode? Why are all these labels necissary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damon Rose" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 8:51 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B? > Dunno about you but this whole A pack B pack thing seems a bit daft. > Surely it could've been developed a little better? > > What happens, in practice, if you use the same barcode label twice? That > would be useful to know. > > Also, why can't we just use the barcode that is on the product itself > already? This would mean that every time I swipe a can of heinz baked > beans, it would always say heinz baked beans because the barcode will > always be the same. Or would this necessitate too much guesswork in > working out where the barcode is? I ask because some of these barcode > sensors are really very good and you don't have to be precise at where > you point the wand. > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of Karl Proud > Sent: 10 July 2009 08:38 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B? > > Isaac, > > I was thinking the same thing. I am guessing that the penfriend is > pretty > portable and can therefore be lost pretty easily - I lose every other > thing! > Backup is going 6to be important. > really looking forward to getting a hold of one and playing with it > though. > > Karl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Isaac Porat" <isaac@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:11 AM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B? > > > Hi Karl > > This is my understanding too. Another point is that The device is very > useful for many applications but I suspect using it for anything > critical > (meaning anything that it will take you too long to construct again) may > be > risky. > As all messages are stored on the device, any memory corruption (which > can > happen with this type of devices) may mean that all messages are lost. > So for example I would not mark my CDs unless the messages can be easily > backed up and restored. > > Regards > Isaac > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of > Karl Proud > Sent: 09 July 2009 21:13 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B? > > Hi, > What I meant was that if you are concerned that you would go through the > labels fast by using them for food: labels on tins and fridge/freezer > items, > and felt that you would run out of labels real fast there was a way of > using > more than one pack of label A packs. So, if I bought 5 packs of A > labels, I > could just go through them as long as I deleted the voice tag for each > tin/freezer bag I used. I didn't mean reusing the labels. > > Cheers > Karl > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 6:44 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B? > > > No, but if you have them on a box in the freezer for example containing > sausages and then eat the sausages and replace them with steak, you can > rerecord the sausage label to become steak. I think this is what Karl > was > explaining. > > Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs > Barbara Wilson > M: 07917710779 > T: 02887784046 > E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Skype: creativeeyes > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "will" <lomaswilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 5:53 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B? > > >> YEAH BUT THE LABELS ARE NOT DESIGNED IT SEEMS TO BE TRANSFERED ONTO >> DIFFERENT ITEMS AFTER USE >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Karl Proud" <karl@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:51 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B? >> >> >>> If you are using labels for disposable goods, like tins and freezer > bags >>> you >>> can use pack a labels repeatedly if you simply scan the label you are >>> using >>> as you open the tin and then clear that label's voice tag on the pen. >>> Then, if you scan a new label and it comes up with a voice tag you > know >>> it >>> is still in use >>> >>> You just have to be sure you clear the label everytime you use the >>> bag/tin >>> etc >>> >>> Karl. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "David Russell" <david.russell8@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:17 PM >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Pen Friend Pack A? Pack B? >>> >>> >>> Barry, >>> >>> I believe you will get varying sizes of label in each pack. A and b >>> refers >>> to the coding by which the Penfriend recognises the label itself. > for >>> that >>> reason you cannot purchase two packs of pack A as they will be of no > use >>> unless you have two penfriends. >>> >>> at present there is no pack b, but if there were, you could only buy > one >>> of >>> those for one Penfriend. In the future we may get pack c d e and 5 6 > and >>> 7, >>> But I will have filled my freezer long before then. >>> >>> David >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > Behalf >>> Of Barry Toner >>> Sent: 09 July 2009 17:09 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Pen Friend Pack A? 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