[access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes

  • From: john gallagher <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 11:26:38 +0100

one thing you must do is just sit down and really learn it all because the 
future is android or apple for us. 

----- Original Message -----
From: Vincent Thacker <vince@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, 27 June 2014 11.20 am
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes

>
>
> Martin,
> 
> I agree with most of what you say here, but would be a lot more positive 
> about Android. The fact remains that many blind people are finding phones 
> like the Moto G usable, and the price is about £150. There are some active 
> blind Android mailing lists, and other forms of support are growing. OK, 
> something like the Moto G will feel very different from the C5, but some 
> people are finding it a practical answer.
> 
> Vince.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ========================================
> Message Received: Jun 27 2014, 09.59 AM
> From: "martin wilsher" 
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: 
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes
> 
> Imho at the moment The problem with drift of the mobile industry is that we
> have the bespoke phones, alto 2, and another that I can't remember the name
> of sold by Cobolt for those with usable sight. We used to have talks, now
> defunct, then we get to Android, not easy for older people, I consider
> android with its somewhat questionable accessability to be the Linux of the
> mobile world. Then there is apple, the gold standard at the moment. I have
> deliberately left out Microsoft here, as their commitment to accessibility
> is questionable imho, especially when they scrap cymbian, then put out a
> blog asking "what do we do for blind p""com" when they realised they'd
> also binned a screen reader with the old moble os. Microsoft are said to be
> getting narrator for windows phone eight, though whether that will be a
> patch on apple's voiceover, I can't say. Until then, the tie up with
> mobilespeak seems to be a rather walled garden solution, not a true screen
> reader at the moment. So basically for the budget user, we have no usable
> solutions at the minute, other than the bespoke, some call them blindie
> phones, I call them meeting a need in a very confusing and fast moving
> market. Imho, Microsoft have acted in a very short sighted and disgusting
> manner and did immeasurable damage to their credibility with the move away
> from cymbian, without implementing a full access solution for the new
> windows eight phone before retiring the old os.-Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Jackie Brown
> Sent: 27 June 2014 08.49
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes
> 
> Hi Ibrahim
> 
> I agree, absolutely, but Jim said he has limited funds, and unless he goes
> to the second-hand market, I could only think of the Alto2 as a quick
> solution.
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Jackie Brown
> Twitter: @thebrownsplace
> Skype: Thejackmate
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Ibrahim Gucukoglu
> Sent: 26 June 2014 19.21
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes
> 
> Hi Jackie.
> 
> Surely the Alto 2 is a very basic phone which has very limited features. 
> You couldn't compare the two devices if you tried, and Jim would be losing a
> 
> lot of functionality by moving to such a cheap dumb phone.
> 
> All the best, Ibrahim.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jackie Brown
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 4.43 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes
> 
> Hi Jim
> 
> With limited funds, and in keeping with the type of phone you already have,
> perhaps the nearest would be the Alto2 from RNIB? I suggest this because it
> is unlocked, and will enable you to simply swap over your Sim card. It also
> has a tactile keypad, and you wouldn't need to purchase a Talks upgrade
> because speech is built into the Alto2.
> 
> I hope this helps give you some food for thought.
> 
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Jackie Brown
> Twitter: @thebrownsplace
> Skype: Thejackmate
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Jim Williams
> Sent: 26 June 2014 14.51
> To: BCAB Discussion List
> Cc: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] More Nokia C5 Woes
> 
> Hi Lists,
> 
> Apologies for cross posting but I need as much advice as possible.
> 
> I thought the battery had died on my C5 but tests prove this not to be the
> case. I have been informed that is probably a display malfunction or even a
> motherboard issue. The display will cost £25-£30 alone to rectify, with
> possibly a similar amount for the motherboard replacement.
> 
> Rather than spend such an amount on repairs I was wondering if anyone can
> point me to a replacement of some kind. Funds are limited at the moment so
> I will need to consider very carefully what are my options.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any ideas.
> 
> Jim Williams
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