[access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes

  • From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 14:50:21 +0100

Hi Martin,

And I bet most of those articles you read were by iOS users who can't get
used to the other way of life <Smile>.

All the best

Steve
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
martin wilsher
Sent: 27 June 2014 12:45
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes

I'm only going on what I've read, sure, if you like it that's fine, but
after reading articles describing problems with android and talkback, plus
comparisons, I decided that I could not take that chance.  Plus I got hands
on with talkback, and found it dreadful.  I said in my opinion, which
someone can disagree with or not.----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steve Nutt
Sent: 27 June 2014 11:59
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes

Hi,

Thus speaks the accessibility expert. <Smile>.

Android accessibility questionable?  I use it every day in preference to the
iPhone though I have both.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
martin wilsher
Sent: 27 June 2014 09:59
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes

Imho at the moment The problem with drift of the mobile industry is that we
have the bespoke phones, alto 2, and another that I can't remember the name
of sold by Cobolt for those with usable sight.  We  used to have talks, now
defunct, then we get to Android, not easy for older people, I consider
android with its somewhat questionable accessability to be the Linux of the
mobile world.  Then there is apple, the gold standard at the moment.  I have
deliberately left out Microsoft here, as their commitment to accessibility
is questionable imho, especially when they scrap cymbian, then put out a
blog asking "what do we do for blind people?~" when they realised they'd
also binned a screen reader with the old moble os.  Microsoft are said to be
getting narrator for windows phone eight, though whether that will be a
patch on apple's voiceover, I can't say.  Until then, the tie up with
mobilespeak seems to be a rather walled garden solution, not a true screen
reader at the moment.  So basically for the budget user, we have no usable
solutions at the minute, other than the bespoke, some call them blindie
phones, I call them meeting a need in a very confusing and fast moving
market.  Imho, Microsoft have acted in a very short sighted and disgusting
manner and did immeasurable damage to their credibility with the move away
from cymbian, without implementing a full access solution for the new
windows eight phone before retiring the old os.-Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jackie Brown
Sent: 27 June 2014 08:49
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes

Hi Ibrahim

I agree, absolutely, but Jim said he has limited funds, and unless he goes
to the second-hand market, I could only think of the Alto2 as a quick
solution.


Kind regards,

Jackie Brown
Twitter: @thebrownsplace
Skype: Thejackmate

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 26 June 2014 19:21
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes

Hi Jackie.

Surely the Alto 2 is a very basic phone which has very limited features. 
You couldn't compare the two devices if you tried, and Jim would be losing a

lot of functionality by moving to such a cheap dumb phone.

All the best, Ibrahim.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie Brown
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 4:43 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes

Hi Jim

With limited funds, and in keeping with the type of phone you already have,
perhaps the nearest would be the Alto2 from RNIB?  I suggest this because it
is unlocked, and will enable you to simply swap over your Sim card.  It also
has a tactile keypad, and you wouldn't need to purchase a Talks upgrade
because speech is built into the Alto2.

I hope this helps give you some food for thought.



Kind regards,

Jackie Brown
Twitter: @thebrownsplace
Skype: Thejackmate

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jim Williams
Sent: 26 June 2014 14:51
To: BCAB Discussion List
Cc: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] More Nokia C5 Woes

Hi Lists,

Apologies for cross posting but I need as much advice as possible.

I thought the battery had died on my C5 but tests prove this not to be the
case.  I have been informed that is probably a display malfunction or even a
motherboard issue.  The display will cost £25-£30 alone to rectify, with
possibly a similar amount for the motherboard replacement.

Rather than spend such an amount on repairs I was wondering if anyone can
point me to a replacement of some kind.  Funds are limited at the moment so
I will need to consider very carefully what are my options.

Thanks in advance for any ideas.

Jim Williams

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