[access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes
- From: Vincent Thacker <vince@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 12:19:28 +0200 (CEST)
Martin,
I agree with most of what you say here, but would be a lot more positive about
Android. The fact remains that many blind people are finding phones like the
Moto G usable, and the price is about £150. There are some active blind Android
mailing lists, and other forms of support are growing. OK, something like the
Moto G will feel very different from the C5, but some people are finding it a
practical answer.
Vince.
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Message Received: Jun 27 2014, 09:59 AM
From: "martin wilsher"
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes
Imho at the moment The problem with drift of the mobile industry is that we
have the bespoke phones, alto 2, and another that I can't remember the name
of sold by Cobolt for those with usable sight. We used to have talks, now
defunct, then we get to Android, not easy for older people, I consider
android with its somewhat questionable accessability to be the Linux of the
mobile world. Then there is apple, the gold standard at the moment. I have
deliberately left out Microsoft here, as their commitment to accessibility
is questionable imho, especially when they scrap cymbian, then put out a
blog asking "what do we do for blind people?~" when they realised they'd
also binned a screen reader with the old moble os. Microsoft are said to be
getting narrator for windows phone eight, though whether that will be a
patch on apple's voiceover, I can't say. Until then, the tie up with
mobilespeak seems to be a rather walled garden solution, not a true screen
reader at the moment. So basically for the budget user, we have no usable
solutions at the minute, other than the bespoke, some call them blindie
phones, I call them meeting a need in a very confusing and fast moving
market. Imho, Microsoft have acted in a very short sighted and disgusting
manner and did immeasurable damage to their credibility with the move away
from cymbian, without implementing a full access solution for the new
windows eight phone before retiring the old os.-Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jackie Brown
Sent: 27 June 2014 08:49
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes
Hi Ibrahim
I agree, absolutely, but Jim said he has limited funds, and unless he goes
to the second-hand market, I could only think of the Alto2 as a quick
solution.
Kind regards,
Jackie Brown
Twitter: @thebrownsplace
Skype: Thejackmate
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 26 June 2014 19:21
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes
Hi Jackie.
Surely the Alto 2 is a very basic phone which has very limited features.
You couldn't compare the two devices if you tried, and Jim would be losing a
lot of functionality by moving to such a cheap dumb phone.
All the best, Ibrahim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie Brown
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 4:43 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes
Hi Jim
With limited funds, and in keeping with the type of phone you already have,
perhaps the nearest would be the Alto2 from RNIB? I suggest this because it
is unlocked, and will enable you to simply swap over your Sim card. It also
has a tactile keypad, and you wouldn't need to purchase a Talks upgrade
because speech is built into the Alto2.
I hope this helps give you some food for thought.
Kind regards,
Jackie Brown
Twitter: @thebrownsplace
Skype: Thejackmate
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jim Williams
Sent: 26 June 2014 14:51
To: BCAB Discussion List
Cc: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] More Nokia C5 Woes
Hi Lists,
Apologies for cross posting but I need as much advice as possible.
I thought the battery had died on my C5 but tests prove this not to be the
case. I have been informed that is probably a display malfunction or even a
motherboard issue. The display will cost £25-£30 alone to rectify, with
possibly a similar amount for the motherboard replacement.
Rather than spend such an amount on repairs I was wondering if anyone can
point me to a replacement of some kind. Funds are limited at the moment so
I will need to consider very carefully what are my options.
Thanks in advance for any ideas.
Jim Williams
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