[access-uk] Re: Kindle Keyboard

From: "Paul Benson" <paul.benson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 12:12:48 -0000
Hello Jackie and all, 

Amazing. Does this sound familiar to you all? Whenever someone not involved 
with speech output devices comes into contact with one, the overwhelming 
majority of people are fascinated, for at least 10 minutes, before the interest 
begins to fade. This has happened to me on numerous occasions, in many 
different settings. 

Warning: Soapbox Rant, I got out of bed the wrong side! 

I strongly believe, an introductory speech welcome would arouse curiosity, and 
since society is trying to include minorities, I can find no rational argument 
for manufacturers to deny us speech being enabled at firsts start-up, and every 
switch on after that, until the user chooses to follow the instructions to 
disable the speech. Why should they make the effort to place the speech on the 
device, and then force us to have to struggle with silent menus to initiate 
speech? It is just aquestion of how the menus are written, as to which will be 
active at start-up. If that is too complex, and it isn't, then instead, how 
about a simple slider switch somewhere, controlling speech on/off? Too obvious, 
I suppose. 

I thought we had move on from sighted people always knowing what is best for 
us, and patronisingly refusing to accept that our experiences and suggestions 
are of merit. The present products are programmed for start-up silence, 
however, legislation making devices capable of speech, to have to start-up with 
speech would not make any problems for future products. 

Rant over, I need a fix of chocolate. 

Paul Benson. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie Cairns - Email Address: jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent On: 01/11/2012 11:30
Sent To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Kindle Keyboard

Hi Paul

I understand from what I know of Kindle that Amazon aren't responsive to any
suggestions on the subject which is a great pity and probably at odds with
DDA legislation these days? 
Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Paul Benson
Sent: 01 November 2012 11:27
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Kindle Keyboard

Hello Clive and all, 

Wouldn't it be wonderful if devices like these were programmed to speak upon
switching on for their first use? After verbally welcoming the purchaser to
the product, a short message explaining how to disable the voice permanently
could be given. Everyone needing speech would be happy, and how could anyone
not needing the speech complain about having to make a few keystrokes? 

Do any pressure groups think this idea is worth pursuing with manufacturers,
until the idea becomes accepted as common industry practice? 

Paul Benson. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent
On: 01/11/2012 11:12 Sent To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address:
access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Kindle Keyboard

Hello all,

If this has cropped up before, I probably didn't read, because at the time I
didn't need to know. I've just found out that I should be getting a Kindle
Keyboard for Christmas, so I too would be grateful for the answer to this
one.  In case anyone was thinking of replying off-list there may be others
in the same boat.

 
Best,
Clive

Clive Lever
Diversity and Equality Officer
Kent County Council
 
Office: 01622 221163
Email: clive.lever@xxxxxxxxxxx 
 
 
Kent County Council
Room G37
Sessions House
Maidstone, Kent.
ME14 1XQ
 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
Sent: 01 November 2012 11:05
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Kindle Keyboard

Wondering if some kind soul could tell me if it is possible to initiate
speech on the Kindle Keyboard without sighted assistance out of the box
please?

Apologies if this has been covered before.  I am happy for responses off
list to avoid traffic if you prefer.

Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns

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