[access-uk] Re: Infuriating JAWS problem with BBC website!

  • From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:07:41 -0000

Yes Steve I was just waiting for you to come back with this, and frankly I am not getting into a screen reader debate mate (smile). They all have their good and bad points.


Jackie

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 3:56 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Infuriating JAWS problem with BBC website!


Hi Jackie,

There is a simple answer, it is Window-Eyes <Smile>.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
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Jackie Cairns
Sent: Sunday 10 February 2008 15:45
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Infuriating JAWS problem with BBC website!

Hi Gordon

Sorry to read you are having the same problem, but glad to know I'm not
imagining it.  Ian first came across it as he does a lot of copying and
pasting, and I found it out when I needed to do some.

While Chris has given a clear explanation for why it happens, I can't
understand why JAWS doesn't just allow you to copy and paste from websites
in the way a sighted person would in any case. All this virtual windows and cursors sounds unnecessarily complicated to me. All I wanted to do is paste some names into a report, but my machine got very cross and fell over. So I tried it again and something similar occurred. I tried Notepad and Wordpad
too, with the same result.

Oh well no doubt another bug fix that will appear on the FS website when
version 10.0 comes out (cynical smile).

Jackie


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----- Original Message -----
From: "G. McFarlane" <gmcf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 3:36 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Infuriating JAWS problem with BBC website!


Hi Jackie
I've been finding recently the exact same thing with Jaws 9 andXP home,
and Word 2003. I put it down to the fact that some things on my machine
seem slow in loading possibly through AVG's Internet security package -
this can slow up quite a lot - however I've had to reboot regularly when
pastes hang when trying to get them into Word. I've resorted to switching
and re-typing just like you. Hope someone finds an answer.
Regards.
Gordon McFarlane
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 2:47 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Infuriating JAWS problem with BBC website!


Hi Jackie, you're probably not aware of this, but JAWS 9 has introduced
new ways of copying web page content so that, supposedly, when you paste
it, it appears as if a sighted persom was viewing it, in other words,
none of the JAWS blurb appears in the pasted text. This is known as
"select and copy", and is a new item in the new Adjust JAWS options
dialogue box, accessed with insert v. If you set this to "from virtual
cursor", it should behave like previous JAWS versions. The bug you're
experiencing is not to do with the feature itself, but it's the way Word
handles the pasted text when "select and copy" is set to "full content"
or "full content with onscreen highlight". I fully understand your
frustrations, particularly if it's for an assignment, and I hope what
I've explained helps and obviously enable you to complete the assignment.

Good luck.

Jackie Cairns wrote:
Hi All

I'm fizzing, and I mean really hopping mad with frustration, so please
could someone tell me if the following problem is me going balmy, or is
it really JAWS 9.0.whatever?

When I go onto a portion of the BBC website and copy something to the
clipboard to paste into a Microsoft Word document, JAWS is behaving
really strangely.  It either hangs, or doesn't paste the information
from the clipboard at all into the document.  It does it now and then,
but more often than not just won't paste.

Ian came across this with the text relating to Dale Winton's Pick of the

Pops show on the Radio 2 portion of the BBC site.  He told me about it,
but it's only now that I'm trying to do it myself on the tennis section
of the same site that I'm able to replicate it.

I'm actually trying to compile a report of a tennis match for an
assignment for my Sports Journalism course, and because I can't spell a
lot of these players' names by heart, I was copying their correct
spelling from the site into my document.  But oh no! I can't do it, and
have to keep swapping between the site and the report I have open to
type them in by hand.

I'm doing this using Vista Home Premium, JAWS 9.0.whatever, and
Microsoft Word Professional 2003.  Ian has already come across this
problem using the same version of JAWS with XP Home and Microsoft Word
Professional 2003.

Frankly it is driving me mad, and if something is wrong with JAWS that
it doesn't allow you to copy and paste from the BBC site using version
9.0, and you have to revert to a previous version, then that's bloody
ridiculous.

Ian says he had the same problem in Amazon the other night, when he
tried to paste some information about an album into a file to save.  He
says he has to keep going back to JAWS 8.whatever to do what he needs
to.  God I am so angry now in frustration because this is slowing me up
no end.

Any confirmation would be useful please as this is a really serious
issue if it is down to JAWS.

Many thanks.

Jackie
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