[access-uk] Re: Infuriating JAWS problem with BBC website!

  • From: "Iain Lackie" <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:16:58 -0000

Jackie
I can honestly say I have never had this problem with JAWS 9. I have been 
able to cut and paste from Internet Explorer 7 into Outlook Express, into 
Word and Notepad without any problems and certainly without any machine 
hangs.

Iain
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 3:44 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Infuriating JAWS problem with BBC website!


Hi Gordon

Sorry to read you are having the same problem, but glad to know I'm not
imagining it.  Ian first came across it as he does a lot of copying and
pasting, and I found it out when I needed to do some.

While Chris has given a clear explanation for why it happens, I can't
understand why JAWS doesn't just allow you to copy and paste from websites
in the way a sighted person would in any case.  All this virtual windows and
cursors sounds unnecessarily complicated to me.  All I wanted to do is paste
some names into a report, but my machine got very cross and fell over.  So I
tried it again and something similar occurred.  I tried Notepad and Wordpad
too, with the same result.

Oh well no doubt another bug fix that will appear on the FS website when
version 10.0 comes out (cynical smile).

Jackie


Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
Skype Name: Cairnsplace
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "G. McFarlane" <gmcf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 3:36 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Infuriating JAWS problem with BBC website!


> Hi Jackie
> I've been finding recently the exact same thing with Jaws 9 andXP home,
> and Word 2003. I put it down to the fact that some things on my machine
> seem slow in loading possibly through AVG's Internet security package -
> this can slow up quite a lot - however I've had to reboot regularly when
> pastes hang when trying to get them into Word. I've resorted to switching
> and re-typing just like you. Hope someone finds an answer.
> Regards.
> Gordon McFarlane
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 2:47 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Infuriating JAWS problem with BBC website!
>
>
>> Hi Jackie, you're probably not aware of this, but JAWS 9 has introduced
>> new ways of copying web page content so that, supposedly, when you paste
>> it, it appears as if a sighted persom was viewing it, in other words,
>> none of the JAWS blurb appears in the pasted text. This is known as
>> "select and copy", and is a new item in the new Adjust JAWS options
>> dialogue box, accessed with insert v. If you set this to "from virtual
>> cursor", it should behave like previous JAWS versions. The bug you're
>> experiencing is not to do with the feature itself, but it's the way Word
>> handles the pasted text when "select and copy" is set to "full content"
>> or "full content with onscreen highlight". I fully understand your
>> frustrations, particularly if it's for an assignment, and I hope what
>> I've explained helps and obviously enable you to complete the assignment.
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Jackie Cairns wrote:
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> I'm fizzing, and I mean really hopping mad with frustration, so please
>>> could someone tell me if the following problem is me going balmy, or is
>>> it really JAWS 9.0.whatever?
>>>
>>> When I go onto a portion of the BBC website and copy something to the
>>> clipboard to paste into a Microsoft Word document, JAWS is behaving
>>> really strangely.  It either hangs, or doesn't paste the information
>>> from the clipboard at all into the document.  It does it now and then,
>>> but more often than not just won't paste.
>>>
>>> Ian came across this with the text relating to Dale Winton's Pick of the
>>> Pops show on the Radio 2 portion of the BBC site.  He told me about it,
>>> but it's only now that I'm trying to do it myself on the tennis section
>>> of the same site that I'm able to replicate it.
>>>
>>> I'm actually trying to compile a report of a tennis match for an
>>> assignment for my Sports Journalism course, and because I can't spell a
>>> lot of these players' names by heart, I was copying their correct
>>> spelling from the site into my document.  But oh no! I can't do it, and
>>> have to keep swapping between the site and the report I have open to
>>> type them in by hand.
>>>
>>> I'm doing this using Vista Home Premium, JAWS 9.0.whatever, and
>>> Microsoft Word Professional 2003.  Ian has already come across this
>>> problem using the same version of JAWS with XP Home and Microsoft Word
>>> Professional 2003.
>>>
>>> Frankly it is driving me mad, and if something is wrong with JAWS that
>>> it doesn't allow you to copy and paste from the BBC site using version
>>> 9.0, and you have to revert to a previous version, then that's bloody
>>> ridiculous.
>>>
>>> Ian says he had the same problem in Amazon the other night, when he
>>> tried to paste some information about an album into a file to save.  He
>>> says he has to keep going back to JAWS 8.whatever to do what he needs
>>> to.  God I am so angry now in frustration because this is slowing me up
>>> no end.
>>>
>>> Any confirmation would be useful please as this is a really serious
>>> issue if it is down to JAWS.
>>>
>>> Many thanks.
>>>
>>> Jackie
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