Hello to all It is a shame there is no getting started with android book available, just that there is with iPhone, to teach new users how to use the basic android applications on a stock android phone. I would like to look at the Moto G, but as I'm so used to an iPhone, I'm unsure as to how I get started. Especially, when using applications like Facebook, twitter, email, the web, and other areas. Sent from my iPhone > On 25 Nov 2013, at 13:50, "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi, > > Are you saying Kingsoft is accessible then? I haven't tried it but if you > are right I will give it a whirl. > > All the best > > Steve > > -- > Computer Room Services > 77 Exeter Close > Stevenage > Hertfordshire > SG1 4PW > Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 > Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 > Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 > Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Shamsun, Ali > Sent: 25 November 2013 09:29 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Android > > Try Kingsoft Office. > > Best wishes > > Shamsun Ali > Technology Information Service > RNIB Retail > 105 Judd Street, London WC1H 9NE > > t: 0207 391 2316 > w: www.rnib.org.uk > e: shamsun.ali@xxxxxxxxxxx > > Join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/rnibuk > Follow us on twitter: www.twitter.com/rnib > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > G. McFarlane > Sent: 25 November 2013 00:00 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Android > > Hi > Is there a list for Android or anywhere we can see a list of accessible > Apps? Especially looking for ones which take notes, etc. like a Word > Processing package. > Gordon McFarlane > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Cassidy > Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 11:32 PM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Android > > Hi listers, > > Quite so. It is worthwhile gathering as much info about the various devices. > Mention was made of the Galaxy S3 Mini: It does not seem to accept an otg > adapter and so cannot be used with a usb keyboard. Connected to an Amazon > Basics bluetooth keyboard it also seems not to function either. > > Hth, > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Vanja Sudar > Sent: 24 November 2013 13:22 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: The Moto G > > Just because you've tried couple of devices and they did not work you can't > claim that it "never" works. Is android accessibilitty perfect? Sure is not. > Should be a better/faster way to turn on access? Sure there should be. The 2 > finger double tap works when setting up a new phone. Not sure what device > you used and the speach kept cutting out or didn't read what you wanted it > to. With android you have a choice of devices and though some might work > better than others and one might need to be careful which to choose, that's > certainly not a reason for android to not be considered as an option for a > blind person. I think rather than bashing android, more needs to be done to > help people make having an informed decision and help people choose a right > android device. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Saqib > Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 9:20 AM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: The Moto G > > I'm not really convinced with that mehtod of turning accessibility on. I > tried a friend/s Samsung S3 Mini from the setup screen and it didn't do > anything. I tried to get my daughter to turn Talkback on her S3 Mini and > kept on getting a error message about setting the right language when the > phone was purchased here in the UK. This is why people just don't trust the > Android OS because it doesn't do what it says on the tin I'm afraid. Another > example is when I bought a tablet and Talk back would read what I was > touching and then it would cut out and read nothing. I mean how bloody > shabby is that. I'm honestly trying to give Android the benefit of doubt put > these incidents don't help a jot. Large propotion of people turn to IOS > because it's trusted and Voiceover is well polished. Another words it does > what it says on the tin. I would love to promote Android as well as IOS but > how can I recommend something that just never works as it should! > >> On 22 Nov 2013, at 11:04, "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Hi Mo, >> >> Turn it on, wait for about 20 seconds, then put two fingers on the >> screen slightly apart. After about four secs it will come up talking. >> Job done. >> >> All the best >> >> Steve >> >> -- >> Computer Room Services >> 77 Exeter Close >> Stevenage >> Hertfordshire >> SG1 4PW >> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 >> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 >> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 >> Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Mobeen Iqbal >> Sent: 22 November 2013 09:31 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: The Moto G >> >> Hello. >> >> Its worth remembering that that price is for the 8GB version sim free. >> the 16GB version will set you back £160 sim free from phones 4 u. >> Steve, how do you launch the accessible setup on this handset? it >> would be fantastic if we can have full access to the device out of the >> box. >> >> all the best, >> >> Mo. >> >>> On 22/11/2013 08:53, Steve Nutt wrote: >>> Richard, >>> >>> The Moto G is already available in Phones4U at 119.00 with a 10 >>> pounds top up or 135 pounds Sim-Free. >>> >>> We will hopefully be selling it from December, price to be announced, >> though >>> not quite that cheap. It will be sub-200 pounds though. >>> >>> This is a very worthy phone for the price, has 4.3 out of the box and >>> will have 4.4 Kitkat on it by January 2014. >>> >>> I am told by Someone who already owns it that it is accessible even >>> to the point of setting it up with no sight, so Motorola haven't >>> skinned it that much either. It is almost a pure Google phone. >>> >>> It is not 4G compatible, though for the price, this is to be expected. >>> >>> Well worth a look. >>> >>> All the best >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> -- >>> Computer Room Services >>> 77 Exeter Close >>> Stevenage >>> Hertfordshire >>> SG1 4PW >>> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 >>> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 >>> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 >>> Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>> Behalf >> Of >>> Richard King >>> Sent: 21 November 2013 11:21 >>> To: access-uk >>> Subject: [access-uk] The Moto G >>> >>> I think that Android is definately worthy of consideration over Apple >>> at the moment, I have heard that Google are about to launch a new >>> handset since taking over Motorola Mobile, called the Moto G. And the >>> word is it will retail in the UK for £135, a fraction of the cost of >>> an iPhone. 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