Hi Jackie, Android is the OS, and Ice Cream Sandwich is the codename for Version 4.0. Jellybean is 4.1. Android is owned and developed by Google though it is free and mainly open source. So anyone can develop custom apps for it, they don't have to go through Apple's convoluted approval systems. Having said that, I read about a piece of Malware that got to Android, can't remember what it was, and Google simply issued an update to the OS that removed it, if it was found on the phone. I thought that was kind of neat. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: 01438-742286 Mob: 07956334938 Fax: 01438-759589 Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: 17 July 2012 09:21 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Android As I have become kind of interested in this thread, perhaps Steve or someone with knowledge of Android phones could please tell me which of them work with accessibility? I was chatting with my son last night, and he says two of his friends have the Galaxy S3, whatever that is. It would appear that Android Smartphones are cheaper than the iPhone, but do they all work for blindies? The general threads from people on this list have aroused my curiosity in Android. I gather, without wishing to sound ignorant, that Android is the operating system, so what is the Ice Cream Sandwich or Jellybean part of it then? And is Android something to do with Google? Sorry to sound vague, but I am only just beginning to wake up to the Apple alternative, (smile). Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ANDY COLLINS Sent: 16 July 2012 17:16 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Android So, if that is so, which phones does it work on? - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Beasley <mailto:pjbeasley23@xxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 4:32 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Cobolt compass, beware androyd is the operating system. ----- Original Message ----- From: Vince Thacker <mailto:vince@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 3:30 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Cobolt compass, beware Andy, Android, as I understand it, started off as its own company, but is now part of Google. Vince. ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDY COLLINS <mailto:Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 3:11 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Cobolt compass, beware Hi Steve - I'm still with the N82 [I know I know <smile>] My intention when I next go for a phone, was to probably go the IPhone route, but have to say, I don't like the size and shape of it so much. Guess I need to find out what the differences are between it, and Android models. I'm a bit behind with the latest mobile market. Are Androids the manufacturor name, as with Nokia? Or is Android the OS produced by Google? - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 8:31 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Cobolt compass, beware Hi Andy, I?ve never seen the Cobolt compass, but I do this on my mainstream Android phone <Smile>. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: 01438-742286 Mob: 07956334938 Fax: 01438-759589 Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk <http://www.comproom.co.uk> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ANDY COLLINS Sent: 15 July 2012 22:42 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Cobolt compass, beware Hi all - Another waste of dosh! I think I paid about £35 for this, and it's a load of rubbish. My experience with it, found it to be both inaccurate and unpredictable. Like many things produce for blind people, it is also very ugly, and cheap looking/feeling. I'm not just banging the old drum of complaint against equipment produced for the blind. In fact, it saddens me to find yet again the same experience, of over-priced [but I do understand the niche market equals fewer sales argument] ugly build, hardly fit for purpose, assistive equipment. I always try to buy where I can, mainstream equipment, and figure out how to get the best from it, but sometimes, mainstream can be too non-accessible, and I am forced to go to the so-called specialists. It truly gives me no pleasure in bringing to the attention of the list this poor piece of specialist equipment, but I think we need to keep shouting for equality in product performance, reliability, and aesthetic appeal. I don't want big clunky stuff in my pockets, or around my house, just because it can talk, or give me some other kind of additional feedback. As I have said before on this list, the PTR1 was the most over-priced, mal-functioning, hugely ugly piece of junk, I've ever wasted 600 quid on. Sadly, I've wasted 35 on a useless compass, that thinks North is wherever it fancies, on any given day - Andy __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7227 (20120617) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq