Many thanks for your input as well. How easy is it to update a phone with an older version of the operating software on it? What is it like for texting, and are the gestures similar to the iPhone or a completely different experience? Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Debbie Palmer Sent: 17 July 2012 11:08 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Android Hi I am an android user and I am totally blind. Android is now very accessible. I am currently using the Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini Pro which has a qwerty keyboard and is currently running gingerbread, (android version 2.3) I am shortly due to upgrade my phone to Ice-Cream Sandwich which is android 4.0 which is also accessible. I currently use my android phone with no trouble at all. Accessibility in Android is coming along in leaps and bounds. Debbie ________________________________ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 17 July 2012 09:28 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Android Ditto Jackie but maybe I am wrong, I think Android is like saying Symbian only a different software but then what of the manufacturer. Nokia have Symbian so who have Android, wondering if it is Sony Erickson. I am totally confused about these phones too otherwise I would have an interest in them if they are now said to be better than Nokia Symbian. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 9:20 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Android > As I have become kind of interested in this thread, perhaps Steve or > someone > with knowledge of Android phones could please tell me which of them work > with accessibility? I was chatting with my son last night, and he says > two > of his friends have the Galaxy S3, whatever that is. It would appear that > Android Smartphones are cheaper than the iPhone, but do they all work for > blindies? The general threads from people on this list have aroused my > curiosity in Android. I gather, without wishing to sound ignorant, that > Android is the operating system, so what is the Ice Cream Sandwich or > Jellybean part of it then? And is Android something to do with Google? > > Sorry to sound vague, but I am only just beginning to wake up to the Apple > alternative, (smile). > > > Kind Regards, > > Jackie Cairns > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of > ANDY COLLINS > Sent: 16 July 2012 17:16 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Android > > So, if that is so, which phones does it work on? - > > Andy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Peter Beasley <mailto:pjbeasley23@xxxxxxxxx> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 4:32 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Cobolt compass, beware > > androyd is the operating system. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Vince Thacker <mailto:vince@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 3:30 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Cobolt compass, beware > > Andy, Android, as I understand it, started off as its own > company, but is now part of Google. > > Vince. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ANDY COLLINS <mailto:Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 3:11 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Cobolt compass, beware > > Hi Steve - I'm still with the N82 [I know I know > <smile>] My intention when I next go for a phone, was to probably go the > IPhone route, but have to say, I don't like the size and shape of it so > much. Guess I need to find out what the differences are between it, and > Android models. I'm a bit behind with the latest mobile market. Are > Androids > the manufacturor name, as with Nokia? Or is Android the OS produced by > Google? - > > Andy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Nutt > <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 8:31 AM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Cobolt compass, > beware > > > Hi Andy, > > > > I've never seen the Cobolt compass, but I do > this on my mainstream Android phone <Smile>. > > > > All the best > > > > Steve > > > > -- > > Computer Room Services > > 77 Exeter Close > > Stevenage > > Hertfordshire > > SG1 4PW > > Tel: 01438-742286 > > Mob: 07956334938 > > Fax: 01438-759589 > > Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk > <http://www.comproom.co.uk> > > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ANDY COLLINS > Sent: 15 July 2012 22:42 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Cobolt compass, beware > > > > Hi all - > > > > Another waste of dosh! I think I paid about > £35 for this, and it's a load of rubbish. My experience with > > it, found it to be both inaccurate and > unpredictable. > > > > Like many things produce for blind people, > it is also very ugly, and cheap looking/feeling. > > > > I'm not just banging the old drum of > complaint against equipment produced for the blind. In fact, it saddens me > to find yet again the same experience, of over-priced [but I do understand > the niche market equals fewer sales argument] ugly build, hardly fit for > purpose, assistive equipment. > > > > I always try to buy where I can, > mainstream equipment, and figure out how to get the best from it, but > sometimes, mainstream can be too non-accessible, and I am forced to go to > the so-called specialists. It truly gives me no pleasure in bringing to > the > attention of the list this poor piece of specialist equipment, but I think > we need to keep shouting for equality in product performance, reliability, > and aesthetic appeal. I don't want big clunky stuff in my pockets, or > around > my house, just because it can talk, or give me some other kind of > additional > feedback. As I have said before on this list, the PTR1 was the most > over-priced, mal-functioning, hugely ugly piece of junk, I've ever wasted > 600 quid on. Sadly, I've wasted 35 on a useless compass, that thinks North > is wherever it fancies, on any given day - > > > > Andy > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 7227 (20120617) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7305 (20120717) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7305 (20120717) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq