Dale, You are not seeing the things I am asking for because you are not receiving a BSOD. That stands for Blue Screen of Death and is called such because when you get it you can do nothing. You are dead in the water and have to turn the PC off to recover. What you are getting is some sort of application error. It is possible to get it from the OS, but more likely you are getting it from an installed application. Does this happen on boot up? If so, click Start / Run and type in msconfig in the run line and run that. On the General tab use "Diagnostic Startup" and reboot the system. Do you get the error? If this does not happen on bootup, then what steps do you have to take to re-create the error? Post exactly what you do see on the error screen. Pay attention to the blue title bar at the top of the error window. What's in there? Spider http://web.tampabay.rr.com/spider1 http://spider1.blogspot.com/ http://erablog.net/blogs/Spider1/ -----Original Message----- From: 24hoursupport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:24hoursupport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Madrachod@xxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 8:14 PM To: 24hoursupport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [24hoursupport] Re: System.ini's, spare stack's & MinSP's, oh my!! In a message dated 11/18/2004 3:50:09 AM Central Standard Time, spider1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: You're missing a lot of needed information here. Sorry about that, I was kind of in a hurry and forgot. What is the brand/type of PC, Gateway Select 900 or processor and amount of RAM? 64MB, I keep trying to get more memory, but I seem to always get the wrong kind, or it just doesn't work in my puter. What operating system are you using? Windows ME. Post more information on the BSOD. I don't recall exactly what it says, but it always says something about not having enough spare stacks, it mentions the number 5 and MinSPs in System.ini. Then it says hit any key to continue. I do and sometimes I go right back to the BSOD within seconds. Next time I get one I'll try to write it down. Should be in a few weeks, at most. What is the Stop code in the top left of the screen? I haven't a clue what you're talking about. I never saee anything in the top left, just a few lines across the middle. Is there a Phrase_separated_by_underscores? Not that I recall. In the first few lines does it mention a file name that ends with .exe, .drv or .sys? I don't exactly remember, but I don't think it does. Now, another thing is that I've only had this hard drive for a little more than two years have written zeroes to it twice, at least, most recently about two months ago. A week or so later I bought a new hard drive to replace it and it started giving me trouble in the first two weeks, so I reverted back to this one again. This one is a 40 gig Seagate, the new one is a 120 gig Western Digital. I have a 250 gig in here, too (but, at the moment, it only gives me 127 gig), from WD and it's not giving me any trouble at all. Dale For a web-based membership management utility and information on list policies, please see http://nibec.com/24hoursupport/ To unsubscribe, send a blank email to 24hoursupport-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" (without quotes) in the subject.