Thats basic psychology. Nobody likes to admit that they made a mistake. Jerry Silverman Greentron Inc 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609 Fax/Phone 864 232 3889 mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:21 AM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: computer question how do i secure my computer from hackers > Well, I have come to the conclusion that we seem to love what we buy....and > that's a good lesson to us, because if we have a customer that asks us if > their "brand of TV" is good (and we want their future business) we should > agree with them that their brand is "one of the Best", which I have always > done. > I've heard from customers that said "I'll never let them service my TV > because they said my TV was Junk!! What do you think Damon??" Ohhhh > noooo....you got a gooooood tv here..... > > As for ratings on software, they do help to weed out some of the crap, but > I've always checked the negative comments on these to find out why....and I > really can't accept a lot of the ratings due to the fact that some are > install problems, some read like a 12 year old kid wrote it, others read > like a hacker disembowled the program then complains about it....the list > goes on and on....As a reference I prefer to read what the editors of the > magazines say about it first and foremost, then consider downloading it. > > Of course, I can't read everything.....but I'll still beat Norton's drum > even tho' they rate low....I get to see the daily results on a daily basis, > and I'm quite happy with the results, and..... ;-) I'll never let that damn > company ever touch my Norton....so what do you think about Norton, did I buy > a good set??? (don't forget what I said above about customers) > > Damon Brunger > Telrad Electronics > Ft. Wayne, IN > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bil Green" <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Damon" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 1:15 AM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: computer question how do i secure my computer from > hackers > > > >I can't really say they suck. I'm just surprised that quite few people > > insist that Norton is so good (used to have a much higher rating) and > > for a couple years the ratings at CNET have been awful. I have had > > really good luck using programs which do have a great rating. > > > > Maybe I shouldn't have said anything. If Norton is working for you, > > that's good. > > > > I don't like Consumer Reports ratings either. They usually only pick > > one model of each brand of TV (or whatever), and that's not very > > scientific. Not to mention that each TV manufactured does not always > > perform identically. And do they adjust the background color as > > needed before rating it? > > > > Bil Green > > PC 1000 > > Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 > > 760-924-1000 > > > > Tuesday, November 23, 2004, 7:24:29 PM, you wrote: > > > > D> You ever look at Consumer Reports on TVs?? The ones I find reliable > > have for > > D> some reason or another always been rated low, and the not-too-good TV's > > seem > > D> to rate higher..... > > > > D> Anyways, you say Norton Sucks, and you say Spysweeper sucks.....I like > > them > > D> both. Sorry you don't..... > > > > D> Damon Brunger > > D> Telrad Electronics > > D> Ft. Wayne, IN > > D> ----- Original Message ----- > > D> From: "Bil Green" <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > D> To: "Damon" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > D> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:13 PM > > D> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: computer question how do i secure my computer > > from > > D> hackers > > > > > >>> If Norton is so good, why does it have such a terrible rating (among > >>> actual users) at download.com? Check it out: 35% approval for Norton > >>> Internet Security 2005 (35 votes). Norton Antivirus 2005, about the > >>> same (80 votes). > >>> > >>> I would feel like a fool to use this. Ad-aware is rated 89% and there > >>> are other free programs which work far better than Norton. Sorry guys, > >>> I'm just reporting what I see. > >>> > >>> Yeh, Norton probably works great for a few. But there are far too many > >>> complaints. > >>> > >>> Bil Green > >>> PC 1000 > >>> Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 > >>> 760-924-1000 > >>> > >>> Monday, November 22, 2004, 11:07:55 PM, you wrote: > >>> > >>> D> " Is this an issue to do with firewall ( NEED ADVICE ) " > >>> > >>> D> Yes it is and Norton Internet Security will stop spam, popups, > >>> viruses, > >>> D> Trojans, provides a firewall, etc......IT's Complete Protection for > >>> The > >>> D> Internet....which is what we all need, including you. > >>> > >>> D> I used to have spyware, popups occur because some stuff just slips by > >>> the > >>> D> general programs....not with Norton....$59.95 at Walmart, worth every > >>> penny, > >>> D> and after a year you suscribe yearly, getting updates on every piece > >>> of > >>> D> protection built into N.I.S. > >>> > >>> D> Damon Brunger > >>> D> Telrad Electronics > >>> D> Ft. Wayne, IN > >>> D> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> D> From: "Tiberio Moreira" <tibstv@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >>> D> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>> D> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:12 PM > >>> D> Subject: [TechAssist] computer question how do i secure my computer > >>> from > >>> D> hackers > >>> > >>> > >>>>> hello to all > >>>>> Thanks to all who responded to my post > >>>>> As it turned out my computer was loaded with spyware > >>>>> I downloaded adware and ran program computer seems to be back to > >>>>> normal > >>>>> my next question is how do I know if my computer is safe enough to do > >>>>> transactions with a credit card ? Just recently some got access to my > >>>>> credit > >>>>> card number ( now I'm afraid to use it online ) > >>>>> Is this an issue to do with firewall ( NEED ADVICE ) > >>>>> Any suggestions > >>>>> tib > >>>>> > >>>>> Tiberio Moreira > >>>>> 412 Lancaster St. > >>>>> Leominster Ma. (978) 5375973 > >>>>> #9176 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>From: Bil Green <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>To: J Silverman <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: ........changed to Spyware........ > >>>>>>Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:41:01 -0800 > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Actually I could. Produce and even better product without cheating. > >>>>>>It's too bad that so many people fell for this trick and gave the > >>>>>>program a good rating. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>I thinks CNET should start banning programs which install spyware > >>>>>>without telling the customer before the installation. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Bil Green > >>>>>>PC 1000 > >>>>>>Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 > >>>>>>760-924-1000 > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Monday, November 22, 2004, 2:42:53 PM, you wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>JS> Can you think of a better way to guarantee success? > >>>>>>JS> Jerry Silverman > >>>>>>JS> Greentron Inc > >>>>>>JS> 4 Newland Ave > >>>>>>JS> Greenville SC 29609 > >>>>>>JS> Fax/Phone 864 232 3889 > >>>>>>JS> mail to: greentron@xxxxxxx > >>>>>>JS> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>JS> From: "Bil Green" <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>JS> To: "Jim Myers" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>JS> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 4:57 PM > >>>>>>JS> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: ........changed to Spyware........ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> But someone already found that Spysweeper downloads spyware and > >>>>>> >> places > >>>>>> >> it in its own directory, then finds it during the scan. Didn't you > >>>>>> >> see > >>>>>> >> my earlier post? > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> Bil Green > >>>>>> >> PC 1000 > >>>>>> >> Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 > >>>>>> >> 760-924-1000 > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> Monday, November 22, 2004, 12:39:35 PM, you wrote: > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> JM> Every place I look the trial download is free but to subscribe > >>>>>> >> it > >>>>>>is > >>>>>> >> JM> $29.95, I ran AdAware and Spybot S&D to be sure my system is > >>>>>> >> clean > >>>>>>JS> then > >>>>>> >> JM> downloaded Spysweeper, ran AdAware and Spybot again, still > >>>>>> >> clean. > >>>>>>Then > >>>>>> >> JM> ran Spysweeper. Spysweeper took longer to scan my system and > >>>>>> >> found > >>>>>>12 > >>>>>> >> JM> spywares and 22 traces. Does this mean it is better and found > >>>>>> >> some > >>>>>>JS> that > >>>>>> >> JM> the other two missed or did it put some on my system to find? > >>>>>> >> My > >>>>>>JS> feeling > >>>>>> >> JM> is it must be better since we know that Spybot finds some that > >>>>>>AdAware > >>>>>> >> JM> misses and visa versa. Maybe Spysweeper is worth the 30 bucks. > >>>>>> >> JM> > >>>>>>JS> > >>>>>>********************************************************************** ****** > >>>>>>JS> *************************************** > >>>>>> >> JM> Since 1972 > >>>>>> >> JM> Jim Myers > >>>>>> >> JM> Telrad Electronics > >>>>>> >> JM> Fort Wayne, Indiana > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> JM> Tony S wrote: > >>>>>> >> >> I have been using Spysweeper for 2 weeks now and I have to > >>>>>> >> >> agree, > >>>>>>does > >>>>>>JS> a > >>>>>> >> >> better job then Adaware. > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> Tony Saracco > >>>>>> >> >> TCS ELECTRONICS > >>>>>> >> >> 406 Andra Ct. > >>>>>> >> >> Gilberts, IL 60136 > >>>>>> >> >> tcselectronics@xxxxxxxxx > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>> >> >> From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>> >> >> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>> >> >> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 6:31 PM > >>>>>> >> >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: computer problem Symantic Email Proxy > >>>>>>Pop-ups > >>>>>> >> >> overtaking my computer > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >>>Spysweeper will kick Spybot's and Adaware's asses with both > >>>>>> >> >>>hands > >>>>>>tied > >>>>>> >> >>>behind it's back........and I've tried all 3 and the magazines > >>>>>> >> >>>have > >>>>>>JS> rated > >>>>>> >> >>>it > >>>>>> >> >>>above both too....Webroot Spysweeper.....that's the one to > >>>>>> >> >>>download > >>>>>>JS> free. > >>>>>> >> >>>That's Spysweeper......by Webroot. Want me to spell it???? > >>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >>>Essss, Peee, Why, Esss, Double you, Eeeee, Eeeee, Peee, Eeee, > >>>>>>JS> Are.....;-) > >>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >>>Damon Brunger > >>>>>> >> >>>Telrad Electronics > >>>>>> >> >>>Ft. Wayne, IN > >>>>>> >> >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>> >> >>>From: "Intrepid Video Support" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>> >> >>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>> >> >>>Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 4:06 PM > >>>>>> >> >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: computer problem Symantic Email Proxy > >>>>>>Pop-ups > >>>>>> >> >>>overtaking my computer > >>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >>>>Tib, > >>>>>> >> >>>>Do you have spyware scanners on your computer? > >>>>>> >> >>>>If not, you need some.. > >>>>>> >> >>>>Go to www.download.com, search for Spybot and Adaware. > >>>>>> >> >>>>Download each one, install, check for updates, then run them. > >>>>>> >> >>>>Jeff > >>>>>> >> >>>>-- > >>>>>> >> >>>>Intrepid Video TV/VCR Repair > >>>>>> >> >>>>263 S Front St, Steelton PA 17113 > >>>>>> >> >>>>717-939-7708; (F) 717-564-4952 > >>>>>> >> >>>>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > >>>>>> >> >>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>> >> >>>>From: "Tiberio Moreira" <tibstv@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>> >> >>>>To: <ServiceTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; > >>>>>> >> >>>><techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>> >> >>>>Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 11:43 AM > >>>>>> >> >>>>Subject: [TechAssist] computer problem Symantic Email Proxy > >>>>>> >> >>>>Pop-ups > >>>>>> >> >>>>overtaking my computer > >>>>>> >> >>>> > >>>>>> >> >>>> > >>>>>> >> >>>>hello to everyone > >>>>>> >> >>>>got up sunday morning to check email and there were a zillion > >>>>>> >> >>>>email > >>>>>> >> >>>>scanning > >>>>>> >> >>>>errors on my task bar > >>>>>> >> >>>>been on computer all morning clicking X's ( close program ) > >>>>>> >> >>>>There is a constant folw of Pop-Ups labled Symantic Email > >>>>>> >> >>>>Proxy > >>>>>>with > >>>>>> >> >>>>messages > >>>>>> >> >>>>your email was unable to be sent server rejected the > >>>>>> >> >>>>recipient/sender/server > >>>>>> >> >>>>interrupted > >>>>>> >> >>>>open email client and resend message from set message folder > >>>>>> >> >>>>just in time i spent writing this email (25 min ) i had to > >>>>>> >> >>>>close > >>>>>>JS> pop-ups > >>>>>> >> >>>>every couple of sec > >>>>>> >> >>>>There is a Symantec scanning message box running on both > >>>>>> >> >>>>bottum > >>>>>>JS> corners > >>>>>> >> >>>>of > >>>>>> >> >>>>screen > >>>>>> >> >>>>Hope someone can help me out before i take a hammer to fix > >>>>>> >> >>>>problem > >>>>>> >> >>>>tib > >>>>>> >> >>>> > >>>>>> >> >>>> > >>>>>> >> >>>>Tiberio Moreira > >>>>>> >> >>>>412 Lancaster St. > >>>>>> >> >>>>Leominster Ma. 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