[TCUG] Re: Bleep and Sweep pedestrian crossings
- From: "Bill Emett" <bill.emett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:55:08 +0100
In Sefton we did try these units on a dual Pelican a few years ago.
although the sound levels did change with background noise ,the sound
from adjacent crossings could still be heard enough to believe them not
safe.The reliability of the units was also problem and eventually they
had to be scrapped.
The only successful use of these which I have heard of, is where two
crossing are around a corner from each other and shielded by
buildings,they proved better in this case then normal bleepers
Bill Emett
Senior Assistant Engineer
Design and UTC Services
Technical Services Department,
Sefton MBC
Balliol House,
Balliol Road,
Bootle
L20 3NJ
Tel 0151 934 4507
Mobile : 07976 538 223
Balliol House
Balliol Road
Bootle
L20 3NJ
E-mail: Bill.Emett [AT] technical.sefton.gov.uk
Phone: 0151-934 4305
Fax: 0151 - 922 4514
>>> Tim.Clark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 06-Oct-04 1:26:29 pm >>>
We have two dual crossings with this facility operating or partially
disabled. One is now due for refurbishment and we would prefer to
remove
the bleep and sweep due to safety concerns as they can sometimes be
heard at the wrong crossing. But we have a single committed blind
campaigner who who will not accept this stance.
We believed that they were no longer manufactured or no longer
approved
but this is not the case. We also discovered that the DfT advice note
acknowledges that they may be heard by the adjacent crossing ! We have
therefore had to agree to purchase new units and have the suppliers
(Sedgewall Communications 01582 475555) set them up to ensure they are
operating correctly. We will then determine if we think they are safe
for all users.
To date we have been unable to arrange a meeting to discuss the
matter,
inc. maintenance and servicing, with the suppliers. I would be
interested to know more of your specific maintenance problems and
operational experiences.
>>> stephen.falconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx 06/10/04 12:12:04 >>>
Here in Leeds we did try, many years ago, two operate two dual
crossings
with "Bleep and Sweep". which we were not too happy with, due in part
to
maintenance problems and also the effectiveness of their operation.
Can
I
ask if anybody still uses this form of pedestrian indication on
crossings
and whether or not they consider them successful.
Steve Falconer
UTMC
Leeds City Council
0113 2476768
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