[TCUG] Re: Bleep and Sweep pedestrian crossings
- From: "Harrison David" <david.harrison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: 21 Apr 2005 22:56:00 -0000
Tim
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Bill Emett (06/10/2004 12:55):
>In Sefton we did try these units on a dual Pelican a few years ago.
>although the sound levels did change with background noise ,the sound
>from adjacent crossings could still be heard enough to believe them not
>safe.The reliability of the units was also problem and eventually they
>had to be scrapped.
>The only=20successful use of these which I have heard of, is where two
>crossing are around a corner from each other and shielded by
>buildings,they proved better in this case then normal bleepers
>
>
>Bill Emett
>Senior Assistant Engineer
>Design and UTC Services
>Technical Services Department,
>Sefton MBC
>Balliol House,
>Balliol Road,
>Bootle
>L20 3NJ
>
>Tel 0151 934 4507
>Mobile : 07976 538 223
>Balliol House
>Balliol Road
>Bootle
>L20 3NJ
>
>E-mail: Bill.Emett [AT] technical.sefton.gov.uk
>Phone: 0151-934 4305
>Fax: 0151 - 922 4514
>
>>>> Tim.Clark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 06-Oct-04 1:26:29 pm >>>
>We have two dual crossings with this facility operating or partially
>disabled. One is now due for refurbishment and we would prefer to
>remove
>the bleep and sweep due to safety concerns as they can sometimes be
>heard at the wrong crossing. But we have a single committed blind
>campaigner who who will not accept this stance.
>
>We believed that they were no longer manufactured or no longer
>approved
>but this is not the case. We also discovered that the DfT advice note
>acknowledges that they may be heard by the adjacent crossing ! We have
>therefore had to agree to purchase new units and have the suppliers
>(Sedgewall Communications 01582 475555) set them up to ensure they are
>operating correctly. We will then determine if we think they are safe
>for all users.
>
>To date we have been unable to arrange a meeting to discuss the
>matter,
>inc. maintenance and servicing, with the suppliers. I would be
>interested to know more of your specific maintenance problems and
>operational experiences.=20
>
>
>>>> stephen.falconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx 06/10/04 12:12:04 >>>
>Here in Leeds we did try, many years ago, two operate two dual
>crossings
>with "Bleep and Sweep". which we were not too happy with, due in part
>to
>maintenance problems and also the effectiveness of their operation.
>Can
>I
>ask if anybody still uses this form of pedestrian indication on
>crossings
>and whether or not they consider them successful.
>
>Steve Falconer
>UTMC
>Leeds City Council
>0113 2476768
>
>
>
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