I've belonged to my local all breed club for the past 3 years (I've been going there for four). I help teach Puppy Class, Graduate Puppy class, and Beginners Obedience...been doing that for all of those 4 years. However, all of my friends are primarily performance people, not conformation. I'm friends with two conformation people who have completely different types of dog from me (they own Dobermans). It's not feasible for me to drive 2.5 hours to the GSD club that's down near Milwaukee, and you certainly can't say I don't want it bad enough, because I go to as many shows as I can and I try to talk to as many people as I can. But for the amount of training I do, I can't afford a 5 hour round trip 5 times a week to "get ahead" What do you suggest in a situation like this? In a message dated 12/8/2005 11:36:31 PM Central Standard Time, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx writes: You join your local club. You volunteer. You EARN the friendship and trust of those whose success you'd like to emulate. You become a sponge. Eventually, if you have the right accommodations for a dog and can afford to campaign one, someone will trust you with a good one. You DON'T become over-dogged and for goodness sakes, you DON'T preach. You keep confidences. - Jackie Marcato Shepherds Where it's about function, not flash ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================