In a message dated 12/8/2005 11:57:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, domara4@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: We forget that in any new endeaver there should be a mentor. If we all think about how we started and whether we were successful, maybe we had someone to learn from.. People new to any field, need help. Not everyone is aware of this, and some make it on their own after many trials and tribulations (I love saying this), but, most do not. Instead of being holier than thou, why isnt there sombody to help, instead of hindering. Barbara who tries to act like a grownup, sometimes! You are sooo right. When I first started in the breed I had two mentors, John Neff (Poplar Creek Kennels and Art and Helen Hess (Hessian Kennels) where I bought my first dog in 1967. I attended shows with these people and learned structure, form, function and movement. I was quizzed on all classes and all dogs that were entered. Health and longevity were important to both of my mentors. Some other things were not as important. We studied pedigrees and bloodlines. All in all it was a wonderful and knowledge gaining experience. When I moved to Georgia I had many people who continued my mentoring program. Bobbie and Frank Cloudt, Don Jones, Sally Holcombe. Took something from everyone. Education is an ongoing process. In the wise words of by Grandmother, if you don't learn something new every day then you have wasted the day. Peg Home of Ch. Campaigners Honor Guard TC, Ch.Hei-Kob's Sweet Cream TC, Ch. Legends Magic Onyx of KcK ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================