In a message dated 12/8/2005 11:47:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, MarcatoGSD@xxxxxxx writes: I've belonged to my local all breed club for the past 3 years (I've been going there for four). I help teach Puppy Class, Graduate Puppy class, and Beginners Obedience...been doing that for all of those 4 years. However, all of my friends are primarily performance people, not conformation. I'm friends with two conformation people who have completely different types of dog from me (they own Dobermans). It's not feasible for me to drive 2.5 hours to the GSD club that's down near Milwaukee, and you certainly can't say I don't want it bad enough, because I go to as many shows as I can and I try to talk to as many people as I can. But for the amount of training I do, I can't afford a 5 hour round trip 5 times a week to "get ahead" What do you suggest in a situation like this? Who says you have to go to the location of your regional club 5x a week? IF you want this bad enough, sooner or later you'll take a look at that you ARE doing, and IF it's not working you re-prioritize how you spend your time and do things differently. Actually, that's a pretty simple premise for all things in life. IF helping to teach OB for an AB club isn't getting you to your goals, (and, although it's probably fun, I don't know how it could, it certainly hasn't the last 4 years, what makes you think it will in the NEXT 4????), do something different. Simple. Or, like Sally suggested, do what she did. But, sorry, AB OB isn't going to help you learn about showing/breeding GSD breed dogs. Kathy three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================