It's not feasible for me to drive 2.5 hours to the GSD club that's down near Milwaukee, and you certainly can't say I don't want it bad enough, because I go to as many shows as I can and I try to talk to as many people as I can. But for the amount of training I do, I can't afford a 5 hour round trip 5 times a week to "get ahead" What do you suggest in a situation like this? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ You do what I did - no mentors, no club close by You buy the very best bitch you can get and afford. You go to all the shows and show her and learn (yes all by your self) You will learn on your own and you will never forget the lessons you learn and you will progress. My goodness jump in and learn to swim not everyone has mentors sally ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================