Colleen, Pam and the like judge the rest of us by the actions of a few.. the bottom line IS the breeder who makes the choices about which of their bitches will be bred to which dogs.. IF the breeders themselves required certification proof etc before they coughed over the bucks for a stud fee, then the rest would follow without mandatory enforcement. not all dogs that are shown are used for breeding for whatever the reasons.. those that breed have control over what happens.. You may think that "democracy" is old and stale, Colleen.. but you stand in a crowd of a few..For most, showing, exhibiting is hobby - an expensive one - now you want everyone to stay out of it until their dog is 2 and OFA'd??? Get real!! I for one am sick to death of this malignment by those that sit back and do none of it but feel they have the God given right to judge.. why don't you spend your energies on ridding the world of puppy mills? Sue Madlung - Shadowacre Reg'd German Shepherds http://www.shadowacre.com/jessie.htm Give your dogs the Ultimate Nutritional Support with BiologicVet Nx http://www.biologicnr.com/biologicvetnx/ Contact stormygsd@xxxxxxx for breeder program Information ----- Original Message ----- From: <Rikers123@xxxxxxx> To: <gsdsforlife@xxxxxxxx>; <Pamswan02@xxxxxxx>; <Lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 3:11 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: To Better The Breed > > In a message dated 12/6/2005 4:21:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, > gsdsforlife@xxxxxxxx writes: > Pam said "I know of > breeders that won't OFA because they are afraid to X-ray but will take them > in the > ring and try for a championship. Sorry but I think that is wrong." > > Denise ( rikers123 ) said " > > > No, Denise said > > " Afraid of what ? I don't know of anyone afraid to x-ray. The majority of > people I know do x-ray before putting big bucks into showing the dogs. That's > only common sense. > Should I not show my dogs because they are not yet of age to be OFA'd ? > Sorry, but I think that is wrong. " > > Denise Groenewald > _www.greenwoodshepherds.com_ (http://www.greenwoodshepherds.com/) > > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================