why pick on just hips? What about elbows? Thyroid? heart? how would we show puppies? x-rays at 6 months aren't always conclusive of anything. Also, OFA excellent does not guarantee OFA excellent or even an OFA pass in the kids.. if it were that easy, don't you think that it would have "cured" the problem long ago? what about breeders that take "ringers" to the vets for another dog's x-rays to guarantee a certification.. I know of dogs (NOT my own) that have been x-rayed many times in the place of another to ensure the almighty number.. I understand where you are coming from, but it just isn't that simple.. you can not legislate ethics.. Sue Madlung - Shadowacre Reg'd German Shepherds http://www.shadowacre.com/jessie.htm Give your dogs the Ultimate Nutritional Support with Biologic Nx http://www.biologicnr.com/biologicvetnx/ Contact stormygsd@xxxxxxx for breeder program Information ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pamswan02@xxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:16 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] To Better The Breed > After cleaning pens, kennels, exercising Holly, taking care of pregnant > mothers, etc at noon time I took a break when a friend of mine came by for a > lengthily chat. We discussed German Shepherds(as usual) and hashed over German > Lines and American Lines. Please correct me if I am wrong but don't the German > Lines cull their puppies after several puppies test? Do they also have a > X-ray of hips before being showed? Well It seems to me the only way to correct > our big problem of dysphasia is to have all show dogs tested or pre-lima > before a German shepherd goes in the ring. A puppy up to 2 years could be pre > limb and after two could be OFA. This would stop people from breeding a poor hip > stud dog .There are two many people that just don't know what these breeders > are trying to hide or maybe the breeder doesn't know about certain dogs in a > pedigree? If all stud dogs had to have an OFA certification then this would > certainly help .I would like to see all show dogs and Bitches be OFA as part > of the regulations of Showing. We probably all know of Sel Champions and > just Champions that are dynastic and have done unspeakable damage to our Breed > by reproducing. I admit when I started years ago, I didn't know what I do now > and am still learning. My goal is to get an OFA excellent If I can live > that long. Ha > > Pam Swanson > Chantilly Shepherds > Home of Ch. Chantilly s Holiday Compadre( Holly) Winner's Bitch at 2004 > National > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================