MO....my vet is great as well but when you have pets to sell here in Ky, most vets live in the dark ages which is so sad....i have had vets here say that they can tell by looking at the dog whether he is displastic or not(LOL)...i have an excellent record with hips and elbows and i am tired of proving them wrong....i had one vet tell me because the puppy was sitting to far back on its rear, it had bad hips...this was told to a pet person and i became unglued !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! natalie CLOVERLEIFE HILL KENNELS http://www.cloverleife.com/ CH CLOVERLEIFE'S DIMPLES - CH CARMIL'S AMADEUS V WINDYWOOD CH CLOVERLEIFE'S CAPPUCCINO ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================