[rollei_list] Re: are there more than one kind of Bay-II?

  • From: todd belcher <todd_belcher@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 20:22:06 -0700

Yes, yes, Jerry - of course the 2.8 A lenshoods will not fit on the later Bay II cameras. But the 2.8 A lenshood is bay II by measure. Again, it is actual orientation of the bayonet II rings on the camera that are different from 2.8 A to 3.5 E and later.

todd





On 13-Aug-06, at 3:43 PM, Jerry Lehrer wrote:

Todd,

No, no Todd.   2.8A lenshoods will not properly index on a 42mm
or 45mm spaced f3.5 camera or vice versa.  Filters will, of course.

No one has ever seen a 2.8A lenshood with a bayonet marking.

Jerry

todd belcher wrote:

Jerry,

No Jerry! The 2.8 A lens shade is Bay II as the size is the same as
any other Bay II accessory. The bayonet designation for an accessory
refers to the size of the accessory. What is different is the
orientation and spacing of the bayonets on the 2.8 A camera. This is
the same logic applied to the 42 and 45 mm interlens lens caps. They
are both Bay II caps, but the spacing of the bayonets are different
on the camera.

As far as markings on the shade, I have Bay I shades that are marked
with the metric diameter and no reference to the bayonet - the same
as the 2.8 A shade.

todd

On 13-Aug-06, at 11:39 AM, Jerry Lehrer wrote:

Todd,

No, Todd!  The 2.8A lenshoods were never marked or officially
sold as "Bay II".  They were marked as "2.8" or a metric diameter.
I have had 4 of them.  They would not properly fit any Bay I or II
cameras.  A local idiot at a San Diego camera store told me that
they were for the RolleiMagic, and sold me two for $5.00!   I gave
one to Neil and the other to Ross Bleasedale to use on their 2.8A.

Jerry

todd belcher wrote:

Almost right Jerry - The 2.8 A lens shade is Bay II and has no cut
out to clear the upper bayonet because the bayonets are spaced far
enough apart to not need the cut out. The 2.8 A lens shade looks like
an overgrown bayonet one lens shade of the same vintage. If the shade
is indeed bayonet two and belongs to a 2.8 A, it is a somewhat rare
item.


So, it is possible the seller is correct and the shade is indeed
bayonet two. But the seller could also be incorrect as well and the
shade is not bayonet two.

todd

On 13-Aug-06, at 9:41 AM, Jerry Lehrer wrote:

Steve,

Obviously someone was not telling the truth. A true Bay II lenshood
has the flange relieved to clear the closely spaced bayonet rings.


A picture of a Bay III 2.8 F will not do any good, so do not bother
to send it.


Your serial number correctly shows a 3.5E camera, Bay II.

Jerry

steven woody wrote:

hi, list

i just bought a metal Len Hood for my Rolleiflex 3.5E ( serial no
1748514 ).  the seller declared it is Bay-II mount but i can not
manage to mount it on to my lens.

after carefully checked my lens mounts, i found the two lens
mounts of
my TLR are positioned one
closed to another, i mean there is no gap between two mounts,
nothing
can be inserted between two mounts.  so, i think, if a lens hood
can
mount the lens, it has to get a male mount and insert into the
female
slots of the lens mount, not covering its outer.  but the lens
hood on
my hand gets a mount likely to be female, and its size make it
looks
like it should cover the outer of a lens mount. it is impossible.

i don't get digicam so i can not upload picture for my camera
and the
lens hood.  attached is a pic of 2.8F i got from net, which has a
same
( or similar ) structure with my lens mounts.  i hope you can
see the
problem and tell me what is the wrong.

thank you in advance.

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