[rollei_list] Re: are there more than one kind of Bay-II?
- From: Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:01:41 +0000 (GMT)
Only to complete the info despite the difference is
evident looking the photographs quoted in
Collectcamera and eBay previously: The Bay II from
3.5C or E model and Bay III lens hoods have two rings
really, the lens hood outer ring protrudes from the
inner ring and this lens hood outer ring has the
special cut and the regular female slots to fit it in
the taking lens accesories male holders. In the other
hand the Bay I 6x6 and 2.8A size II lens hoods don't
have a second ring protruding from an inner ring, the
female slots or cuts are in the same ring.
All the best
Carlos
--- steven woody <narkewoody@xxxxxxxxx> escribió:
> thank you Carlos, i believe you are right and i have
> to contact the
> seller on eBay.
>
> On 8/14/06, Carlos Manuel Freaza
> <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > According your description about your lens hood, I
> > have no doubt your lens hood is Bay I for 6x6 or a
> > 2.8A lens hood if it has the number "34" and the
> > diameter symbol engraved in the ring, it would be
> a
> > rare item but I'm afraid it is not the right and
> /or
> > more suitable lens hood for your 3.5E (or
> C)camera.
> >
> > I was watching my cameras bayonet rings and the
> 2.8A
> > bayonet ring in several detailed photographs I
> have on
> > the 2.8A and I can say the only difference between
> my
> > Bay I Rolleicord IV and the the 2.8A size II
> bayonet
> > ring is the size. Both rings (Bay I and 2.8A size
> II)
> > have identical placement for the taking lens outer
> > ring accesories male holders, at 7-8 hours
> position,
> > at 12 hours position and 4-5 hours position.
> > In the other hand, these accesories male holders
> for
> > the Bay II from the 3.5E (or C) cameras are placed
> at
> > 10-11 hours position, 1-2 hours position and 6
> hours
> > position; the Bay III accesories male holders have
> > identical placement regarding the Bay II from 3.5C
> (or
> > E) cameras (always talking about the taking lens
> outer
> > ring).-
> >
> > All the best
> > Carlos
> > --- steven woody <narkewoody@xxxxxxxxx> escribió:
> >
> > > On 8/14/06, Carlos Manuel Freaza
> > > <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > Steve, I have a long experience using Bay II
> lens
> > > > hoods, first with my former 3.5E and now with
> the
> > > > 3.5F, the Bay II lens hood has a point where
> it
> > > fits
> > > > easily, it's very difficult to fit if you
> can't
> > > find
> > > > the point, the point is between 10 and 11
> hours
> > > > considering the F&H logo position regarding
> the 12
> > > > hours position on the taking lens outer ring,
> if
> > > the
> > > > lens hood is in the right point you turn it to
> 12
> > > > hours and it clicks easily at 12 hours
> coinciding
> > > the
> > > > 12 hours position for the lens hood and taking
> > > lens
> > > > ring.
> > >
> > > many thanks for the info. since my camera was
> > > lefted in my home and i
> > > am now in office, i will try the operation you
> > > mention as soon as i
> > > go back home.
> > >
> > > but, by far, after checked the picture you
> proviced,
> > > i believe my lens
> > > hood don't has the cut shown in the picture. it
> look
> > > like what you
> > > mentioned the ebay item 170016871225. and i can
> > > remember, the lens
> > > hood has a 'Rollei F&H' logo and an engraved
> "34Φ'
> > > mark. however, it
> > > has three inner cut in its inner ring they
> spaced
> > > with each other in
> > > same degree.
> > >
> > > can you say more according these clues?
> > >
> > > > BTW, the lens hood Bay II for 3.5E and 3.5F
> has a
> > > > special cut on its ring with an also special
> shape
> > > > allowing to fit it in the taking lens outer
> ring
> > > and
> > > > avoinding the contact with the viewing lens
> outer
> > > ring
> > > > (and with the shutter speeds wheel), the lens
> hood
> > > > covers the taking lens outer ring thanks to
> this
> > > > special cut.
> > > > If your lens hood has an entire ring without
> cut
> > > it
> > > > could be a Bay I lens hood for Rolleiflex 6x6
> and
> > > > Rolleicord, or it could be a lens hood for
> 2.8A,
> > > > similar Bay II size but with an entire ring
> like
> > > the
> > > > Bay I lens hood I have mentioned, I think this
> > > lens
> > > > hood would be very difficult if not impossible
> to
> > > fit
> > > > on a 3.5E or 3.5F, I never tried it.
> > > > Prochnow in the Rollei Report II, pages 24-510
> and
> > > > 24-511 shows the photographs about the lens
> hoodss
> > > > manufactured for the TLR from 1947 and their
> > > > descriptions, he distinguishes between lens
> hood
> > > with
> > > > "axialer Klemmung" and lens hoods with
> "radialen
> > > > Raststiften" according the way used to fit
> them in
> > > the
> > > > taking lens outer ring ( I know the practical
> > > meaning
> > > > for both fitting ways but I don't know the
> exact
> > > > translation from German into English, the
> first
> > > one
> > > > would be something like " axial wedging" and
> the
> > > > second one something about "radial pins").
> > > > The 3.5E and 3.5F lens hood have "radialen
> > > > Raststiften", and the lens hoods Bay 1 for 6x6
> and
> > > the
> > > > Bay II for 2.8A have "axialer Klemmung", both
> > > types of
> > > > lens hoods rings cover the taking lens outer
> ring,
> > > but
> > > > they work different. The 2.8A lens hood has
> the
> > > F&H
> > > > logo and "34Ã?" according you can see in the
> > > photograph
> > > > clearly.
> > > > You can see a Bay II lens hood for 3.5E and
> 3.5F
> > > > cameras here:
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.collectcamera.com/pagesrollei/hoodscaps/hoodmetalbay2b.htm
> > > >
> > > > and you can see a Bay I lens hood looking for
> the
> > > item
> > > > 170016871225 on eBay, the 2.8A lens hood looks
> > > very
> > > > similar.-
> > > >
> > > > All the best
> > > > Carlos
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- steven woody <narkewoody@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > escribió:
> > > >
> > > > > hi, list
> > > > >
> > > > > i just bought a metal Len Hood for my
> Rolleiflex
> > > > > 3.5E ( serial no
> > > > > 1748514 ). the seller declared it is Bay-II
>
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