I've been somewhat intrigued by this notion since the frist time I read it. The two aperture values correspond to the same size opening. So it's certainly possible that the same lens was just spaced slightly differently, or just as possible that it's a question of shutter size, as Richard suggests. It would be interesting to see these details mapped out (i.e. how the lenses were typically offered in terms of shutter size). Apart from the fact that the Medalist lens was mounted in No. 2 Supermatic, and that the three 'standard' press camera focal lengths were offered, at least theoretically, in the Synchro Rapid 800, I'm hopelessly unfamiliar with this subject. WRT the Triotar and the Tessar as well, ZI seems to have followed a fairly conservative and methodical pattern, beginning with f/4.5 versions (actually, f/6.3 if you want to reach all the way back) and progressing thru f/3.8 intermediates to the final f/3.5 aperture. The 80mm Tessar seems to be the exception to this pattern. The difference in speed *is* pretty slight, but If you consider the slow film in those days, I can see how it might be important to some photographers. Georges Giralt, there's little difference between the Triotar and Apotar. They are both fine triplets, though over the decades the Apotar seems to have gained a stronger reputaion (if online testimonials are any indication), in terms of sharpness and corrections. The best reputation of all the triplets, in medium format at least, appears to be enjoyed by the Trioplan made in Gorlitz by Meyer Optik. -- ¡Ay, Pachamamita! ¡Eres la cosa más bonita!