[rollei_list] Re: New Haven pizza photos
- From: todd belcher <todd_belcher@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 14:19:43 -0700
Just responding, Marc, by paraphrasing your own quaint parlance :
On 23-May-06, at 10:21 PM, Marc James Small wrote:
There is much BS with Pizza.
Have a look around the net as well as the profusion of evidence in
many books.
It is well documented that pasta in Italy did not originate with
Marco Polo. In fact marco Polo in his own book, "I Millioni" says
that the Chinese make a "lasagna similar to that which we prepare
with wheat flour.
The romantic myth that Marco Polo brought pasta on his return from
China has long been debunked. Marco returned in 1295 after twenty-odd
years of travel away from Italy. In 1279, however, a Genoese soldier
listed in the inventory of his estate a basket of dried pasta ('una
bariscella plena de macaronis'). The Sicilian word "maccaruni" which
translates as "made into a dough by force" is the origin of the word,
macaroni. Anyone who has kneaded durum wheat knows that force is
necessary. In the ancient methods of making pasta, force meant
kneading the dough with the feet, often a process that took a full day.
Additionally, most scholars believe that pasta was imported to Italy
via the Arabs who documented long ago, the making dried pasta. The
facts are that strips of dried pasta were included in the staples
that seafarers and caravans used to carry with them even before the
year 1000 A.D. Which makes a lot of sense due to the fact that on
these long journeys non-perishable food stuffs were in high demand.
The Arab geographer Abu Abdallah Muhammed Al Idrisi in his book,
written around the year 1150 A.D. and destined for the Norman King of
Sicily, Roger II, gave a particular account of how to dry, and thus
preserve, fresh pasta.
On 25-May-06, at 1:30 PM, Marc James Small wrote:
At 01:10 PM 5/24/06 -0700, todd belcher wrote:
There is much BS with pasta and Marco Polo. The Italians had pasta
before Marco Polo.
Thank you, Todd, for your cautious and polite dissent. And you
source is?
Marc
msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir!
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