[rollei_list] Re: New Haven pizza photos
- From: Nick Roberts <nickbroberts@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 22:55:50 +0100 (BST)
Shouldn't Marc have enquired about your sauce instead?
;)
Very interesting, actually, Todd - I had always had
some trouble believing the Marco Polo story about
pasta. But does anyone know when rice first came to
Italy?
Nick
Todd belcher <todd_belcher@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Just responding, Marc, by paraphrasing your own
> quaint parlance :
>
> On 23-May-06, at 10:21 PM, Marc James Small wrote:
> >
> > There is much BS with Pizza.
>
> Have a look around the net as well as the profusion
> of evidence in
> many books.
>
> It is well documented that pasta in Italy did not
> originate with
> Marco Polo. In fact marco Polo in his own book, "I
> Millioni" says
> that the Chinese make a "lasagna similar to that
> which we prepare
> with wheat flour.
>
> The romantic myth that Marco Polo brought pasta on
> his return from
> China has long been debunked. Marco returned in 1295
> after twenty-odd
> years of travel away from Italy. In 1279, however, a
> Genoese soldier
> listed in the inventory of his estate a basket of
> dried pasta ('una
> bariscella plena de macaronis'). The Sicilian word
> "maccaruni" which
> translates as "made into a dough by force" is the
> origin of the word,
> macaroni. Anyone who has kneaded durum wheat knows
> that force is
> necessary. In the ancient methods of making pasta,
> force meant
> kneading the dough with the feet, often a process
> that took a full day.
>
> Additionally, most scholars believe that pasta was
> imported to Italy
> via the Arabs who documented long ago, the making
> dried pasta. The
> facts are that strips of dried pasta were included
> in the staples
> that seafarers and caravans used to carry with them
> even before the
> year 1000 A.D. Which makes a lot of sense due to the
> fact that on
> these long journeys non-perishable food stuffs were
> in high demand.
> The Arab geographer Abu Abdallah Muhammed Al Idrisi
> in his book,
> written around the year 1150 A.D. and destined for
> the Norman King of
> Sicily, Roger II, gave a particular account of how
> to dry, and thus
> preserve, fresh pasta.
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