[rollei_list] Re: Decline of Rollieflex/Film
- From: "Austin Franklin" <austin.franklin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:08:48 -0500
Hi Charlie,
I take your word for it, and respect your opinion on it. I will say that I
know a LOT of "professionals" who are more so advanced amateurs than
professionals. Most wedding photographers are more so advanced amateurs,
though they are technically professionals, as they make money from it. So,
I'm not personally sure how to distinguish the difference.
Did you sell both Hasselblads and Rollei TLRs? If so, did most people
interested in one, also show interest in the other? What can you say about
the relationship between the two, with respect to the customer?
Regards,
Austin
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Austin..I am not claiming for one minute that my either opinion is based
on science. Most people who worked in small to mid-size retail camera stores
of 'that time' got to know their customers. It's not like it is today!
You there a LOT of 'regulars' and you did know if they were amateur or
pro. There were, of course, many 'walk-ins' too, but when you spent a half
hour or an hour with them showing them cameras (as retailers DID commonly do
then) the depth of their knowledge and their 'use' for the Rollei quickly
became apparent. So, yes, I think that in the vast majority of cases I could
tell if the customer buying a Rollei was an 'advanced amateur' or a pro.
Charlie
In a message dated 3/25/2010 4:43:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
austin.franklin@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Hi Charlie,
Perhaps, but how could you tell if someone was a professional or
"advanced amateur"? I don't recall anyone ever asking me that question, nor
me ever telling them. And, I've bought a whole lot of cameras. Plus, your
isolated observation, no matter how true, does not speak for the whole
world's market.
Regards,
Austin
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Hi Austin,
I worked in camera stores in the late 50's and early 60's and saw who
was buying Rolleis; There were simply a lot more advanced amateurs than
pros. I base it on observation/recollection.
In the 60's when I studied photojournalism in college, the market had
already swung to 35mm!
Regards,
Charlie
In a message dated 3/25/2010 4:14:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
austin.franklin@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Hi Charlie,
I'm curious how you know that to be true.
Regards,
Austin
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Yes, there were a lot of photojournalists who used them, but their
numbers were dwarfed by the number of 'advanced amateurs'!
charlie silverman
In a message dated 3/25/2010 2:11:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
peterk727@xxxxxxxxx writes:
I guess all the Photojournalists who used them for their day to
day work did not know they were amateurs. :-)
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Elias_Roustom
<elroustom@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Rollei TLR cameras were cameras for the advanced amateur
market
mainly
Now that I didn't know. That's really interesting. Old news
for you, news to me.
Adds to the mystique. Thanks.
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