didn't know such a thing existed. Where do I apply. I don't think RSB is going to open case for me so need to get things upgraded and running correct and faster for this new job on my own. Suzanne Rountree Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reginald George" <sgeorge@xxxxxxxxx> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 11:58 AM Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader > > Don't forget about the assistive technology grant available through > Missouri > Counsel for the Blind. They will pay for half of whatever it is you > decide > you want to get, be it a Victor Stream or a Trekker. > > Reg > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 8:45 AM > Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader > > > Probably too nosy, but how do yall afford all these gadgets? I think I > make > pretty decent money and not much debt but really can't shell out 1500 for > that cool-sounding thing Reg mentioned. by the way, what was that called > again? Sounds like something this backwoods person could get and last me > long time since I don't keep up with technology much. lol Well, maybe > better get a cell phone first. haha > Suzanne Rountree > suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <jenpat@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 7:11 AM > Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader > > > > Hello Sarah and welcome to the list. I've been utilizing the Trekker Pro > since May and I love it and all of its features. I've always enjoyed > walking > and utilizing fix bus routes while working my Guide Dogs, the Trekker has > really enhanced my mobility. > Patrick Palmer > Kansas City, MO > > > -----Original Message----- > From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Sarah Jevnikar > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:15 PM > To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader > > Hi all! > Thanks for the welcome. I'm writing to you from Ontario, Canada. I'm > finishing my last year of high school and will be attending university > *(somewhere) next year, hopefully in science or math, particularly biology > or actuarial science. Should be interesting ... > That new device sounds insane. What do you like so much about the Braille > Note Reginald? It sounds really good, but a lot of the notetakers out > there > sound to similar to really decide which is best. > Do any of you use a Trekker? They sound great too - a GPS system using > JAWS > speech and totally accessible, as long as the satellite map is good. > They're > > a bit costly though. > Take care all, > Sarah Jevnikar > P.S.: is there any way to delete one's own email when sending messages to > this list? I keep getting messages I've posted in my inbox. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Reginald George" <sgeorge@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:15 PM > Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader > > >> Hi Sarah, >> >> welcome to the Real Eyes list. We are a blind computer users group in >> Kansas City. Most of the time we are too lazy to all meet so we have >> this >> list that people have sort of joined from all over the country and we >> help >> each other. Once a year or so we try to meet and have steaks and party a >> little. Tell us something about you. There's no such thing as a stupid >> question and, we are all here to help each other. Usually we keep the >> traffic pretty low and just forward interesting information that helps us >> all. >> >> I use a Braille Note which I love. I know there are Packmate users on >> here. >> Where I think it's all going with the notetakers are devices like the >> Icon >> Plus from Level Star and A.P.H. that are a phone, notetaker, music >> player, >> have blue tooth and Braille support and fit in your pocket with a 30 gig >> hard drive. Makes some of this other stuff look positively obsolete and >> it >> only costs about $1500. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sarah Jevnikar" <sarah.jevnikar@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: October 11, 2007 10:13 PM >> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader >> >> >> yeah ... a bit of both ... I just joined up a few weeks ago when I was >> looking for list serves on Braillle notetakers. Well ... I didn't find >> any >> but I found this, which has been interesting so far. Do any of you know >> anything about the Braille Sense, Braillle Note, Packmate etc. or where I >> might go to find introductory stuff on them? I've been using a Braille >> Lite >> 2000 for about 6 years, but I think I might need an upgrade. Any >> thoughts? >> Thank you, >> Sarah Jevnikar >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:41 PM >> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader >> >> >>> BTY, Are you new to the list, don't post much, or I just don't remember >>> you? >>> Regardless...Hi Sarah! >>> Suzanne Rountree >>> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:38 PM >>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader >>> >>> >>>> >>>> intelligence? what intelligence? lol I'm certainly not insulted. I >>>> was >>>> saying it usually doesn't work because I don't know what I am doing, or >>>> I >>>> get lucky and can read it. Your email was very helpful. Moved it to >>>> my >>>> sacred saved teckie folder. smile >>>> Suzanne Rountree >>>> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Sarah Jevnikar" <sarah.jevnikar@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:19 PM >>>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Too true. I'm sorry - I didn't mean to insult your intelligence with >>>>> that >>>>> super-long email. I get like that sometimes ... >>>>> Sarah Jevnikar >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:09 PM >>>>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the info Sarah. My experience with PDF is it either works >>>>>> or >>>>>> it >>>>>> doesn't. lol Usually doesn't. >>>>>> Suzanne Rountree >>>>>> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Sarah Jevnikar" <sarah.jevnikar@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:34 PM >>>>>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Suzanne, >>>>>>> I think Adobe 7 was the earliest to introduce accessibility options >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> JAWS, however there is Adobe 8.1 (I'm not exactly sure the number, >>>>>>> but >>>>>>> 8 >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> definitely a part of it), which might be worth getting for later >>>>>>> versions >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> JAWS. The latest version of JAWS I have is 7 so I'm not totally sore >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> this, but I figure it couldn't hurt to be as up-to-date as possible. >>>>>>> I've also found with pdf's that some are still unreadable. I don't >>>>>>> know >>>>>>> why >>>>>>> this is, though I think it might have something to do with how the >>>>>>> file >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> saved. However, most pdf's work fine. >>>>>>> I don't know what your experience with adobe is like, but sometimes >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> file >>>>>>> that has just been downloaded appears as a series of buttons, which >>>>>>> say >>>>>>> things like "0" and "jumps to next highlighted section". In such a >>>>>>> case, >>>>>>> you'll just need to hit b a number of times until you get to "Zoom >>>>>>> in" >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> then hit enter". you might be presented with a dialog box to confirm >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> request, which just means you'll have to hit enter again. This >>>>>>> should >>>>>>> bring >>>>>>> up the document. >>>>>>> I hope this lengthy email makes sense, and good luck. >>>>>>> Oh by the way, I'm sorry I forgot this. Most times when you download >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> PDF >>>>>>> for the first time without setting accessibility options it will >>>>>>> automatically prompt you to do this, through a set of four screens. >>>>>>> Just >>>>>>> tab >>>>>>> through all this and you'll see what I mean. If this doesn't happen, >>>>>>> open >>>>>>> Adobe and look for "accessibility setup assistant" under the help >>>>>>> menu. >>>>>>> Again, I hope this helps. >>>>>>> Sarah Jevnikar >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> To: "real-eyes" <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:10 PM >>>>>>> Subject: [real-eyes] adobe reader >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> which version of adobe works best with jaws 7 and/or 8? >>>>>>>> I have several different adobe things on this PC. when i open a >>>>>>>> PDF >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> it wants me to update, I never know if I should or which one. >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> Suzanne Rountree >>>>>>>> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >>>>>>>> options, >>>>>>>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >>>>>>> options, >>>>>>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net >>>>>> >>>>>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >>>>>> options, >>>>>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >>>>> >>>>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >>>>> options, >>>>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net >>>> >>>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >>>> options, >>>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net >>> >>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, >>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:41 PM >> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader >> >> >>> BTY, Are you new to the list, don't post much, or I just don't remember >>> you? >>> Regardless...Hi Sarah! >>> Suzanne Rountree >>> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:38 PM >>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader >>> >>> >>>> >>>> intelligence? what intelligence? lol I'm certainly not insulted. I >>>> was >>>> saying it usually doesn't work because I don't know what I am doing, or >>>> I >>>> get lucky and can read it. Your email was very helpful. Moved it to >>>> my >>>> sacred saved teckie folder. smile >>>> Suzanne Rountree >>>> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Sarah Jevnikar" <sarah.jevnikar@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:19 PM >>>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Too true. I'm sorry - I didn't mean to insult your intelligence with >>>>> that >>>>> super-long email. I get like that sometimes ... >>>>> Sarah Jevnikar >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:09 PM >>>>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the info Sarah. My experience with PDF is it either works >>>>>> or >>>>>> it >>>>>> doesn't. lol Usually doesn't. >>>>>> Suzanne Rountree >>>>>> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Sarah Jevnikar" <sarah.jevnikar@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:34 PM >>>>>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: adobe reader >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Suzanne, >>>>>>> I think Adobe 7 was the earliest to introduce accessibility options >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> JAWS, however there is Adobe 8.1 (I'm not exactly sure the number, >>>>>>> but >>>>>>> 8 >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> definitely a part of it), which might be worth getting for later >>>>>>> versions >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> JAWS. The latest version of JAWS I have is 7 so I'm not totally sore >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> this, but I figure it couldn't hurt to be as up-to-date as possible. >>>>>>> I've also found with pdf's that some are still unreadable. I don't >>>>>>> know >>>>>>> why >>>>>>> this is, though I think it might have something to do with how the >>>>>>> file >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> saved. However, most pdf's work fine. >>>>>>> I don't know what your experience with adobe is like, but sometimes >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> file >>>>>>> that has just been downloaded appears as a series of buttons, which >>>>>>> say >>>>>>> things like "0" and "jumps to next highlighted section". In such a >>>>>>> case, >>>>>>> you'll just need to hit b a number of times until you get to "Zoom >>>>>>> in" >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> then hit enter". you might be presented with a dialog box to confirm >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> request, which just means you'll have to hit enter again. This >>>>>>> should >>>>>>> bring >>>>>>> up the document. >>>>>>> I hope this lengthy email makes sense, and good luck. >>>>>>> Oh by the way, I'm sorry I forgot this. Most times when you download >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> PDF >>>>>>> for the first time without setting accessibility options it will >>>>>>> automatically prompt you to do this, through a set of four screens. >>>>>>> Just >>>>>>> tab >>>>>>> through all this and you'll see what I mean. If this doesn't happen, >>>>>>> open >>>>>>> Adobe and look for "accessibility setup assistant" under the help >>>>>>> menu. >>>>>>> Again, I hope this helps. >>>>>>> Sarah Jevnikar >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Suzanne Rountree" <suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> To: "real-eyes" <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:10 PM >>>>>>> Subject: [real-eyes] adobe reader >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> which version of adobe works best with jaws 7 and/or 8? >>>>>>>> I have several different adobe things on this PC. when i open a >>>>>>>> PDF >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> it wants me to update, I never know if I should or which one. >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> Suzanne Rountree >>>>>>>> Suzyq69@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >>>>>>>> options, >>>>>>>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >>>>>>> options, >>>>>>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net >>>>>> >>>>>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >>>>>> options, >>>>>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >>>>> >>>>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >>>>> options, >>>>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net >>>> >>>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >>>> options, >>>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net >>> >>> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, >>> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >> >> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, >> go >> to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >> >> >> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, >> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, > go > to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, > go > to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > > > > This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, > go > to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, > go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > > This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes